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Watching the mocha brown 79 go across the block on BAT reminded me of a question I've had on my 79. It has a cork interior with black pod like most. It also has black carpet which looks 100 times better than the "tan" carpet that I see in most cork optioned 928s. I also have the COA from Porsche and it lists the interior as "Cork Partial Leather/PA". I don't think I've ever seen a cork interior with black carpeting before mine.
It could have been replaced at some point (but it looks like it fits/wears the 87k miles on the car).
Does this cork leather (or pasha) with black carpet combo exist? Anyone here with one (pics?).
BTW, the car is now black but originally oak green (and will go back to oak green at some point )
Edit: Found one (Chuck Z's Kermit): Could it be a "green" 928 thing?
The light interiors like cork, cashmere, champagne typically had beige/tan carpet or sometimes brown. I have seen black in some tan/cream seated 911 SCs and a 930, but I'm pretty certain those were changed by an owner. A good first step of investigation; is the carpet genuine Sliverknit? If it isn't, the answer is obvious.
There is a, from memory hard to come by, brochure from Porsche for dealers which lists suggested interior colour combinations for a particular MY with accompanying codes. If you could find one for 79 you might find your answer. I'm sure someone on here has these brochures actually. Of course, the original owner could have specifically requested black carpet anyway and if not part of one of these 'suggested interior packages' then there may not be a correct corresponding code?
Here's the page from the 1979 Porsche Color Guide for 928 interior codes. At least 'officially', code PA is everything in cork, with leather seat center cushions (extra cost..) :
Hard to imagine that Kermit's carpets are not original (with only 1500-ish miles on her) so perhaps there were special-order exceptions? Dunno.
Here's the page from the 1979 Porsche Color Guide for 928 interior codes. At least 'officially', code PA is everything in cork, with leather seat center cushions (extra cost..) :
Hard to imagine that Kermit's carpets are not original (with only 1500-ish miles on her) so perhaps there were special-order exceptions? Dunno.
That's the literature right there. Many more thanks to Rob. Say, you wouldn't happen to have the sheets for 80 and 81 would you?
Here's the sheet for 1980- I have never seen one for '81 but based on PET part numbers I think that the color schemes for 1980 and 1981 are the same. They all changed again in 1982.
Many thanks. Given the code, I suspect a previous owner swapped in the carpet (probably when it was repainted in black).
I'll double check to see if it's genuine Porsche. Pretty sure it is as the rear carpet in the hatch area is exactly like the one in my GT.
I'll mark this as mystery solved for now.
That said, the cork/black combo really pops (plus the fact that the lighter carpets show the dirt really fast). I'll likely leave it there since this won't be a full resto, more of a "keep as I found it barn find kinda build".
Here's the sheet for 1980- I have never seen one for '81 but based on PET part numbers I think that the color schemes for 1980 and 1981 are the same. They all changed again in 1982.
Interesting, I was looking out for the two-tone brown and beige option which wasn't too uncommon on early cars but I don't see it. Do you have sheets for the 80/81 RoW S?
Many thanks. Given the code, I suspect a previous owner swapped in the carpet (probably when it was repainted in black).
I'll double check to see if it's genuine Porsche. Pretty sure it is as the rear carpet in the hatch area is exactly like the one in my GT.
I'll mark this as mystery solved for now.
That said, the cork/black combo really pops (plus the fact that the lighter carpets show the dirt really fast). I'll likely leave it there since this won't be a full resto, more of a "keep as I found it barn find kinda build".
The factory chosen combinations as well as what the first owner chose aren't always the best. If black looks good to you I would keep it. If you were ordering this car back in 79 you could have requested black carpet and Porsche would have put it in for you no questions asked. The interior colour guides above are just that, guides to make a dealer's job easier. Owners who wanted a slight deviation would just ask the dealer to correspond with Porsche and make it happen when the order is put in.
Unless you were planning on a museum-quality full restoration to parade at concours events where you place the CoA on the windshield I would not bother personally. If the carpet is in great shape and proper Sliverknit that is excellent.
If you have owned or follow classic Ferrari sales it wasn't uncommon for first owners to send the cars back to Maranello for an interior or exterior colour change. I guess if you have the money to throw around...but my point being if values based on originality might worry you, I don't think you should worry. This is coming from someone who strictly cares about originality but only where OEM parts and year/period correct options are concerned. Colour change done correctly? No problem I say.
I'm afraid I don't. Not sure that there was ever a difference in available color schemes in the ROW market vs. the US market for any given model year. (Certainly the frequency of color schemes and the use of say, berber fabric varied by market but not what was dealer-orderable. Though I could be completely wrong.)
That said, there are a huge number of cars post mid '84 (when Z-options first started being listed explicitly on build sheets(roughly October 1983 or thereabouts)) through 1995 where deviating or special carpet colors were called out. The most common code for this is 00321.
Many thanks. Given the code, I suspect a previous owner swapped in the carpet (probably when it was repainted in black).
That said, the cork/black combo really pops (plus the fact that the lighter carpets show the dirt really fast). I'll likely leave it there since this won't be a full resto, more of a "keep as I found it barn find kinda build".