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Old 03-28-2023 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hwyengr
Once the air/fuel ratio gets to a certain point on either side of lean or rich, the atmosphere in the cylinders isn’t volatile anymore. It’s the same as being able to drop a lit match in a full gasoline can. There’s too much fuel in the air to be explosive.

For the short period of time I drove my 928, it flooded by looking at it funny. The one time I got stranded, it only got running by pulling the fuel pump fuse and cranking with the throttle wide open for a while to clear the cylinders. Then VA-ROOM.

But if enough liquid fuel condenses, you do risk hydrolock. How much cranking have you done?
Oh, I was asking Mr Merlin why not to crank it. I assume he was worried about hydro locking. I am not worried about the cranking as much as the running the pump for a long enough time for that.

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Old 04-01-2023 | 10:16 PM
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Hi All,

Well, I got around to testing the fuel pressure. With the pump running, no vacuum reference, I am getting around 35 psi, which I think is the correct value, so the new dampers are not blocking the path. However, turning the pump off, in about 30 seconds, the pressure dropped down to 20 psi. I don't think that's good. My guess is that one or more of the injectors are leaking into the cylinders, causing flooding. Running the pumps for testing could have caused this. I do not smell fuel, so it has to go somewhere where it is trapped. The regulator is relatively new (maybe 5 years old), and it is not leaking into the vacuum lines. Even if the return check valve is faulty, causing the leak back, it would not result in a no-start condition as long as you have pressure. My next step was going to be removing the plugs and looking inside with a boroscope with the pump running. There was some minor dripping at the connection for the fuel pressure gauge, but I doubt that would result in 15 psi pressure drop in 30 seconds.

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Old 04-15-2023 | 06:51 PM
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I am still struggling with this no-start condition. I managed to connect a spark tester to one of the plugs and lo and behold, no spark. So, it has nothing to do with the FPD swap. Somehow, while it sat for a month, something went bad.

I got three new 53B relays and swapped the ignition (IV), EZK (XVI) and fuel pump relays (XX). Still no spark. The rev meter jump when I start to crank, so hopefully it is not the CPS or the EZK. What's next on my list?
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Is there any possiblility that the CPS connector was accidently disconnected while changing the FPR or dampeners at the back of the engine?
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Old 04-17-2023 | 05:28 PM
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bore scope.....look for a "scope camera" for either android or iphone on ebay...$20ish. the cameras are tiny and most come with tiny built in led lights.
Old 04-17-2023 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by soontobered84
Is there any possiblility that the CPS connector was accidently disconnected while changing the FPR or dampeners at the back of the engine?
I see the rev counter jump when trying to start. I don't think that is the issue.
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bore scope.....look for a "scope camera" for either android or iphone on ebay...$20ish. the cameras are tiny and most come with tiny built in led lights.
I have one. How will that help diagnose a no spark issue?
Old 05-01-2023 | 02:31 AM
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Alright, problem has been solved. I like to close out threads once issues have been resolved so others can use it as a resource.

First, a friend came over with his 928 and we tried out my EZF/EZK in his and it worked, so bullet dodged, that was all ok. While I thought the rev counter indicated that the CPS was fine, my friend noticed that a single jump of the needle does not show it to be actually good. When good, it should be going up and down while cranking, not just a single jump. So, we looked at the CPS and its wiring. I didn't notice, but its connection was slightly apart. The plastic housing of the connection was a bit apart. I connected them together and she started right up. I "secured" the connection together with some electrical tape. So, here we are. Back on the road again.
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