Engine swap
#16
Guys don’t get me wrong, that is why I like the 928 so much is the V8 engine. The down fall of it is the US versions are quite down on power from their European counterparts. It seems to get them back up on power can be expensive and slightly complicated. I can build a domestic motor for 3/4 the cost and almost twice the power. I have built hot rods from the ground up so I have no problem with the fabrication. None of that scares me in fact the build is half the fun of the car. Everyone on this forum is aware of the 30 plus year old electronics on these cars can create a ton of maintenance and frustration. If I do go through with the swap I plan on starting fresh with all new wiring and up date any faulty mechanicals as well.
#17
Race Car
Guys don’t get me wrong, that is why I like the 928 so much is the V8 engine. The down fall of it is the US versions are quite down on power from their European counterparts. It seems to get them back up on power can be expensive and slightly complicated. I can build a domestic motor for 3/4 the cost and almost twice the power. I have built hot rods from the ground up so I have no problem with the fabrication. None of that scares me in fact the build is half the fun of the car. Everyone on this forum is aware of the 30 plus year old electronics on these cars can create a ton of maintenance and frustration. If I do go through with the swap I plan on starting fresh with all new wiring and up date any faulty mechanicals as well.
From what you've stated, it sounds like the project is right up your alley.
#18
Team Owner
before you junk the wiring get a few cans of Deoxit 100 and spray down any suspect connections, switches , relays , or fuses
things will bounce back to life in about 24 hours.
goodluck on your path,
Please post pictures of your progress as this will assist us in giving the most accurate suggestions.
things will bounce back to life in about 24 hours.
goodluck on your path,
Please post pictures of your progress as this will assist us in giving the most accurate suggestions.
#19
Nordschleife Master
Guys don’t get me wrong, that is why I like the 928 so much is the V8 engine. The down fall of it is the US versions are quite down on power from their European counterparts. It seems to get them back up on power can be expensive and slightly complicated. I can build a domestic motor for 3/4 the cost and almost twice the power. I have built hot rods from the ground up so I have no problem with the fabrication. None of that scares me in fact the build is half the fun of the car. Everyone on this forum is aware of the 30 plus year old electronics on these cars can create a ton of maintenance and frustration. If I do go through with the swap I plan on starting fresh with all new wiring and up date any faulty mechanicals as well.
Lots of folks think "All I have to do is drop an SBC in, it'll be cheap & easy to work on".
It's a lot more than that to do it properly.
If you've built stuff from the ground up, then you know this.
I've heard it said that the first 90% is easy. But the last 10% of the build takes 75% of the work of the project... And 50% of the money.
SBC & LS swaps are more common. But there have been a couple Ford motors done.
I know Renegade has 'kits' for Chevy conversions. They may (or may not) have parts to put a Ford motor in.
I think there are forums dedicated to swaps like this. You might find more info on those.
Good luck and post the build.
Last - note that you got some warnings about the complexity, but no 'hating' on what you plan.
#20
- Funny you say 90% of the build takes as long as the last 10%! I’ve been saying that for years. The body mechanicals interior are all pretty straight forward but then you get to the finishing. Wiring, plumbing the brakes fuel lines oil lines if needed cooling. Plus all the fine details clutch linkage (in old cars) gauges, sending units for all readings and tuning the engine calibrating kick downs for specific transmissions. I am a few months from even being able to get it in my shop.
#21
I have seen several GM swaps but no Ford swaps in a 928, It would make for a unique project for sure. There seem to be lots of possible candidates for the conversion, lots of police crown vics around for instance.
#23
Rennlist Member
#24
Advanced
40+ years ago my whole family bled Ford blue.... I'm a fan of most any of them now- all have their strengths and weaknesses.. If you're thinking "semi-stripper", track rat, street stealth beast, not a "I'm trying to make the SEMA show..." and you have a thumping Boss 302, sounds pretty cool and fun.. Front sump Ford pan should clear everything, SBF's are slightly skinnier than SBC's, PLUS!! you could show up at the Mid-America Shelby meet in Tulsa, spank a bunch of Mustangs on the Hallett road course since it's Ford powered!!! Ken
#25
Rennlist Member
#26
I put an LS3 into my 928 and absolutely love it. It was a lot of work and totally worth it to drive. Pushing 347 horse at the wheels makes the car so much fun to drive! I say so the swap of you can figure it out. Using an LS engine has a lot more support for when you have questions, but why not be first and drop in a Ford?
#27
Rennlist Member
@Jordan Thieme : Agreed on the Ford engine, so long as it's the Voodoo... (The Coyote is also a beast and would be a blast in these cars.)
Cheers
Cheers
#28
Rennlist Member
I used to roll my eyes at LS swaps, but after getting a car with a factory LS3, I get it now. Just because it has pushrods doesn't mean it's not an advanced engine. 6.2 liters spinning at 6600rpm is nothing to sneeze at.