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Old 03-13-2020, 01:16 AM
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Default Road & Track giving terrible advice

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The 928 is a pretty car with a lovely V-8 engine. But like most old German machinery, it needs constant attention to keep on the road. We'd recommend buying a cheap one so your entry price remains low. This way you save as much money as possible for when something inevitably breaks.
Do we no longer say that cheap 928a are the most expensive ones?
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And we're #1


Old 03-13-2020, 01:59 AM
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Looking at some cars of the list, I think they have no idea about what a reliable car is.
For example : I am not a Maserati fan but.... the Shamal unreliable? Please... The first carbs engined biturbo was. The Shamal is far from being unreliable.

The gtv6 came in a terrible period..rust is the enemy, not reliability. Fiat was the champion of Italian unreliability.

This article makes me also think there are no unreliable US classic cars.

Anyway Road and track is far from being objective. In this trashy article, at least.
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Funny thing.
I've owned about a third of those cars, and I miss them fondly, except I still own my 928 after 16 years.
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those "articles" are nothing more than click bait, and there is no journalistic integrity to them whatsoever. I usually don't even look at them.
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Originally Posted by linderpat
those "articles" are nothing more than click bait, and there is no journalistic integrity to them whatsoever. I usually don't even look at them.
Pretty pictures.
Old 03-13-2020, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by linderpat
those "articles" are nothing more than click bait, and there is no journalistic integrity to them whatsoever. I usually don't even look at them.
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Originally Posted by j.kenzie@sbcglobal.net
Funny thing.
I've owned about a third of those cars, and I miss them fondly, except I still own my 928 after 16 years.
Dave
I'm in the same boat, more if you can count some related versions. Mangusta preceded the Pantera, with even worse build quality. The 302 looked like the gas-brazed steel rear "structure" was assembled only after the engine and gearbox were in. I had a couple Elan +2S cars in addition to Europas, a couple sports-racers, and one Esprit Turbo. '67 E-type was the last US version with headlight glass. The list is long and extinguished.

Just moved the last of the Lotus cars last fall, and the remaining stock ('80's GP scooters) changed ownership back to manufacturer in February.

At this point the 30+ years old, almost 25 years in my stewardship 928 is the only interesting car left. It was at least ten years since I even looked at any of the Lotii, twenty since I saw any of the loaned-back scooters. It will be interesting to see if any of the departed toys pop up in a public market anytime soon. Now gone, they need to be forgotten at least by me.
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R&T is really slipping. There is not one American car in there. I am a highly qualified judge with firsthand experience on ten or twelve of the very worst in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

This (found the pic on the web) is the champion unreliable car of all time. Over the course of 3 months, it stranded someone in my family about 2 out of every 3 drives. We finally had enough when it almost electrocuted me and we had to use pliers to turn the key.


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typical for "our" young generation who think you can buy a oldtimer and drive it.... no , all old cars need work in the first place and drive it after.
I had so many oldy's , never stranded . But i do work a lot more on them than driving in time . Hobby.
Buying cheap ? no way , problems assured. Just find the right one for the right price , with proven maintenance to "calculate" the real value….and start from there. Those costs are done or you have them anyway soon…
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Originally Posted by chart928s4
R&T is really slipping. There is not one American car in there. I am a highly qualified judge with firsthand experience on ten or twelve of the very worst in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
I am guessing. American motors?
This (found the pic on the web) is the champion unreliable car of all time. Over the course of 3 months, it stranded someone in my family about 2 out of every 3 drives. We finally had enough when it almost electrocuted me and we had to use pliers to turn the key.



I am guessing. American Motors?
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Yes. You know your lemons. 1973 AMC Ambassador. This is an SST but we had a Brougham.
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The best thing about Road and Track is that we'll never run out of toilet paper.
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Originally Posted by chart928s4
Yes. You know your lemons. 1973 AMC Ambassador. This is an SST but we had a Brougham.
Must in the genes - remember Mitt Romney's healthcare scheme and Pres. campaign?
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I agree completely with R&T. I'll suffer the slings and arrows here, cuz I don't give a wet, dribbly ****. I may be the only person on this forum who's made money on every bottom fed 928 I've ever invested in. ALL 928s need at minimum renovation, some need full restoration, or something in between. Some of us are upside down, and some of us are not. Spend $2000, and have Roger on speed dial.

Doan it feel good to be a gangsta'.

edit; My brother came home from Vietnam and bought a mid 70s AMC Rebel coupe(Ambassador but two doors). Red with white trim two-tone paint. I think it had a 390 in it with 4bbl. It DRANK gas, but would haul the lumber. I had it up to 130 or so on a run out to Lake Havascrew one summer. On bias ply tires. I'm still alive.

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