MoeMistry

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waynestrutt

My car has original paint. It's directly under my new colour!

linderpat

Counter point - what if the manufacturer repainted a car due to defects, or the dealer had to repaint a portion due to bumps and scrapes in the original delivery process? This probably happened fairly regularly. Also keep in mind that, at least with the early cars, they were hand painted (sprayed), and a consistent depth of paint over an entire car may not have been possible? I think these all still constitute original paint cars, yet paint meter readings could be way off over the various panels of any particular car. I'd love to know what everyone else thinks?

Shark2626

Getting sick of hearing about your “exhibition” car on every thread now. Give it a rest already FFS, no one cares, and no one will pay a premium for it either. Thank you.

Speedtoys

..this is JUST like the hiss of shame in my spin class...

Turbodan

I think it really materially only matters if car has low, low miles. Look at the 356 market, almost none of them are original but a good well sorted well painted car can bring top of the market money. As others have said here other aspects of the car are more important.

Rob Edwards

Geez, I hope repaints don't negatively affect value.

linderpat

^^^Parts cars, every one of them Rob. Shoot me a PM and I'll take them off your hands for cheap

928 GT R

I'll second that offer Rob, and raise it by fifty bucks!

It is sacrilege to put all those man-hours and $$$'s into those cars. To destroy the originality is blasphemy and you should be tarred and feathered by this community for your avarice.

And don't go putting any miles on them either! They must not have miles!

There are extremes in every category and the best of the best always carry a premium...





Hey Sharkey 26! Is my seat position too low?

911user

David, I think You got me beat on the great rear ends photo!

Zshark

Man, all of those look beautiful, but that Minerva looks like a gleaming jewel. Wow!

GeorgeM

If it matters, the PCA rule for paint in the Preservation Group is 75% original... same for the interior.

I asked the PCA Concours Chair about it a number of years ago and he told me that unless the car had a bare metal respray, the original paint is still there... right?

Range Rover

Very valid point, and that's where it becomes a bit of a "grey area." It's very possible that many of the cars I've metered had paintwork done at the factory. On small-scale production cars like the 928, I imagine factory paint rework would be common - especially on special orders (PTS, rarely selected colors, etc.). In fact, I was recently at a Porsche dealer looking at a brand new black 992 and there was very clearly a factory flaw (ripple) in the original paint on the passenger door. I didn't take a meter to the car, but wouldn't be surprised if there was some variation or if the factory repainted that panel. It would be hard if not impossible to know if the factory repainted a panel because, as far as I know, there would be no record of it.

With regards to measurements, I tend to look at anything exceeding 8 mils as being repainted, but that's just my own de facto metric. Basically, I never take anyone's word for it regarding the originality of the paint, and as these cars become older and as documentation gets lost, it becomes very difficult to prove originality.

GT6ixer

What are people's thoughts on a car that has been repainted to a different but period correct color? Take for example the Continental Orange car for sale in the marketplace https://rennlist.com/forums/market/1163916 This car was originally Continental Orange but obviously needs repainted (and restored). Do you think this car once fully restored and repainted would be worth significantly more because it started life as CO vs. a similar condition car that was restored and repainted in CO but started life as a different color?

jeff spahn

FIFY

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