Porsche 928 with Special country code C99
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i have recently been offered a unique 1989 928 manual previously owned by a former world ranking sportsperson. Interestingly it has the Country code option “C99”, which from what I can work out is just listed as “special”. Anyone have any more details of this code? The car was apparently converted by Strosek from new.
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i have recently been offered a unique 1989 928 manual previously owned by a former world ranking sportsperson. Interestingly it has the Country code option “C99”, which from what I can work out is just listed as “special”. Anyone have any more details of this code? The car was apparently converted by Strosek from new.
thanks
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Build sticker attached with option codes, the one that looks odd is the 462 which I thought was weissach version? Also elsewhere the country / dealership code is ZZT which I’d not see before ?
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Just guessing, but possibly the car was sent to a country that had specific safety requirements or combo that was not covered by the other country options.
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FWIW, there were 531 C99 cars between 1980 and 1995, including 9 in 1989. In '89 M462 just referred to a Sekuriflex windshield.
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I’m wondering if the C99 cars were shipped directly to Strosek ? Any genuine Strosek cars from new on the list here? Or any C99 cars?
As a further update, the car was originally supplied to the Czech Republic after the Strosek conversion... is there a country code for that country?
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As a further update, the car was originally supplied to the Czech Republic after the Strosek conversion... is there a country code for that country?
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Google says, “No.”
I don’t follow Stroseks, is there a big market for them?
ETA. It was more likely built to ship to the Czech Republic and then Strosek converted after it was built, hence the C99 (non standard country) designation.
I don’t follow Stroseks, is there a big market for them?
ETA. It was more likely built to ship to the Czech Republic and then Strosek converted after it was built, hence the C99 (non standard country) designation.
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Porsche only had 43 country codes in period, vs. roughly 180 sovereign countries at the time. So I think C99 is just a catch-all for rare country deliveries (Sultan of Brunei, anyone?) and specials. So maybe some went direct to Strosek, Gemballa, B&B, etc? Dunno.
1980-95 deliveries by country, in descending order.
# Produced 1980-95 Country Code
16460 C02 Rest of USA (in 1991 became all of USA)
13769 C00 Germany
4824 C03 California
4013 C16 UK
1908 C08 Japan (LHD)
1806 C05 France
1401 C10 Switzerland
1260 C23 Australia
1232 C36 Canada
710 C07 Italy
637 C26 Singapore
629 C22 Belgium
531 C99 Special
329 C27 Spain
273 C11 Austria
267 C15 Hong Kong
253 C09 Sweden
246 C20 Holland
216 C32 Arab Gulf States
160 C18 Japan (RHD)
107 C31 Saudi Arabia
23 C12 Denmark
18 C13 Finland
14 C19 Luxemburg
11 C24 New Zealand
7 C21 Norway
5 C14 Taiwan
4 C17 British service personnel stationed in Germany
4
3 C25 South Africa
3 C28 Greece
2 C06 French colonies
0 C04 Puerto Rico
0
0
0
0
0
0 C45 Singapore
0 C46 Pakistan
0 C69 France (pre-1986)
0 C72 Switzerland (pre 1986)
0 C98 non-specific RHD production (Cyprus, etc)
1980-95 deliveries by country, in descending order.
# Produced 1980-95 Country Code
16460 C02 Rest of USA (in 1991 became all of USA)
13769 C00 Germany
4824 C03 California
4013 C16 UK
1908 C08 Japan (LHD)
1806 C05 France
1401 C10 Switzerland
1260 C23 Australia
1232 C36 Canada
710 C07 Italy
637 C26 Singapore
629 C22 Belgium
531 C99 Special
329 C27 Spain
273 C11 Austria
267 C15 Hong Kong
253 C09 Sweden
246 C20 Holland
216 C32 Arab Gulf States
160 C18 Japan (RHD)
107 C31 Saudi Arabia
23 C12 Denmark
18 C13 Finland
14 C19 Luxemburg
11 C24 New Zealand
7 C21 Norway
5 C14 Taiwan
4 C17 British service personnel stationed in Germany
4
3 C25 South Africa
3 C28 Greece
2 C06 French colonies
0 C04 Puerto Rico
0
0
0
0
0
0 C45 Singapore
0 C46 Pakistan
0 C69 France (pre-1986)
0 C72 Switzerland (pre 1986)
0 C98 non-specific RHD production (Cyprus, etc)
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Adding to the C99 mysteries:
I have an '85 C99 (ROW S build) that was delivered, with approximately 200km on the odometer, to its first registered owner in Houston, TX.
Unconfirmed, but it sounds to me like the owner picked it up from the factory, drove around Europe for some time, then had the car shipped home, where it was then federalized to U.S. standards.
I believe this is common today that owners can pick up there new cars from the factory, drive them while on holiday, then have the car shipped home later. But nobody at Porsche could tell me if that sort of arrangement warranted the C99 country code. Best info they could give me, was that the first owner ordered the car with a group of options not common to a specific country. What those options are, I could not say since my option codes seem pretty normal as far as I can tell.
When I tore my engine apart, I found it had U.S. spec cams, not the ROW S cams I was expecting. I don't know if those cams came from the factory or if they were installed sometime later. Since it's not a part of the COA or other option lists, I may never know. Nor can I guess why someone would order the engine built with the U.S. cams. Could the original owner have ordered the ROW engine with the U.S. cams, and Porsche test-drive the car a few hundred km before shipping it to TX? Perhaps. I have no way to confirm if this was even possible.
I have an '85 C99 (ROW S build) that was delivered, with approximately 200km on the odometer, to its first registered owner in Houston, TX.
Unconfirmed, but it sounds to me like the owner picked it up from the factory, drove around Europe for some time, then had the car shipped home, where it was then federalized to U.S. standards.
I believe this is common today that owners can pick up there new cars from the factory, drive them while on holiday, then have the car shipped home later. But nobody at Porsche could tell me if that sort of arrangement warranted the C99 country code. Best info they could give me, was that the first owner ordered the car with a group of options not common to a specific country. What those options are, I could not say since my option codes seem pretty normal as far as I can tell.
When I tore my engine apart, I found it had U.S. spec cams, not the ROW S cams I was expecting. I don't know if those cams came from the factory or if they were installed sometime later. Since it's not a part of the COA or other option lists, I may never know. Nor can I guess why someone would order the engine built with the U.S. cams. Could the original owner have ordered the ROW engine with the U.S. cams, and Porsche test-drive the car a few hundred km before shipping it to TX? Perhaps. I have no way to confirm if this was even possible.
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Hi
i have recently been offered a unique 1989 928 manual previously owned by a former world ranking sportsperson. Interestingly it has the Country code option “C99”, which from what I can work out is just listed as “special”. Anyone have any more details of this code? The car was apparently converted by Strosek from new.
thanks
Adrian
i have recently been offered a unique 1989 928 manual previously owned by a former world ranking sportsperson. Interestingly it has the Country code option “C99”, which from what I can work out is just listed as “special”. Anyone have any more details of this code? The car was apparently converted by Strosek from new.
thanks
Adrian
Can we get a VIN??
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Sorry, it’s the internet’s fault...
https://m.classic-trader.com/au/cars...s4/1989/184781
Pretty car! Martina’s???
https://m.classic-trader.com/au/cars...s4/1989/184781
Pretty car! Martina’s???
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Adding to the C99 mysteries:
I have an '85 C99 (ROW S build) that was delivered, with approximately 200km on the odometer, to its first registered owner in Houston, TX.
Unconfirmed, but it sounds to me like the owner picked it up from the factory, drove around Europe for some time, then had the car shipped home, where it was then federalized to U.S. standards.
I believe this is common today that owners can pick up there new cars from the factory, drive them while on holiday, then have the car shipped home later. But nobody at Porsche could tell me if that sort of arrangement warranted the C99 country code. Best info they could give me, was that the first owner ordered the car with a group of options not common to a specific country. What those options are, I could not say since my option codes seem pretty normal as far as I can tell.
When I tore my engine apart, I found it had U.S. spec cams, not the ROW S cams I was expecting. I don't know if those cams came from the factory or if they were installed sometime later. Since it's not a part of the COA or other option lists, I may never know. Nor can I guess why someone would order the engine built with the U.S. cams. Could the original owner have ordered the ROW engine with the U.S. cams, and Porsche test-drive the car a few hundred km before shipping it to TX? Perhaps. I have no way to confirm if this was even possible.
I have an '85 C99 (ROW S build) that was delivered, with approximately 200km on the odometer, to its first registered owner in Houston, TX.
Unconfirmed, but it sounds to me like the owner picked it up from the factory, drove around Europe for some time, then had the car shipped home, where it was then federalized to U.S. standards.
I believe this is common today that owners can pick up there new cars from the factory, drive them while on holiday, then have the car shipped home later. But nobody at Porsche could tell me if that sort of arrangement warranted the C99 country code. Best info they could give me, was that the first owner ordered the car with a group of options not common to a specific country. What those options are, I could not say since my option codes seem pretty normal as far as I can tell.
When I tore my engine apart, I found it had U.S. spec cams, not the ROW S cams I was expecting. I don't know if those cams came from the factory or if they were installed sometime later. Since it's not a part of the COA or other option lists, I may never know. Nor can I guess why someone would order the engine built with the U.S. cams. Could the original owner have ordered the ROW engine with the U.S. cams, and Porsche test-drive the car a few hundred km before shipping it to TX? Perhaps. I have no way to confirm if this was even possible.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...736-story.html
Gray Market imports were the rage in the early ‘80’s, large companies were built around the scheme for a while. I owned a gray market 911 cabrio; funny thing is a German importer bought it from me a few years later and shipped it back to Germany for resale. 😂
The “Special” country code, it would seem, throws a lot of people off and sends them searching for exactly what is so “special” about their cars!