SteveM928

Something similar to that air filter housing in the picture of the Mecredes engine would make a good disguise for the intercooler.

Gretch

BC

the orange hose is temporary until I decide what I want to do with the back of the breather system. Maybe something like PorKens vacuum generator driven intermittantly by the air pump by-pass valve. In any event there will be black braided hose there rather than the garden hose. You certainly are looking close at the pictures though......

Old & New

There is pretty much no room left around the intercooler to fit anything. Tim made it as large as the available space.

I'm either ready to fabricate some covers out of fiberglass or go nuts with a can of black spraypaint.

Gretch, I see you are using the thick black connectors on the pipe between the SC and the IC. I had to use the thinner orange ones, and even cut the pipe in the middle to get it to fit under the cross brace.

Gretch

Let me know what you do for covers......maybe make a couple extras as I am sure you can sell them to some of us.....

Everything around the AWIC is a very tight fit, but I was able to get the pipe under the brace. Tim told me on Lag's car he insulated the rear of the fuel rail from the AWIC with a piece of tha black hose, split up the side and slipped over the top of the fuel rail. That would introduce perhaps 3/16th of an inch of lift that gets translated to the pipe. That alone would cause unacceptable interference with the cross brace (in my specific installation).

bshaw

Nice! Can't wait to hear the dyno numbers.

Question: The SC looks real close to the radiator, how does this kit handle the air cleaner in that little space?

Bill

Tim Murphy

Actually, adding the piece of hose over the fuel rail will lower the inlet to the intercooler and might give you more room. I suppose I could put an indent in the sc pipe where it goes inder the cross brace. With some tweaking around, it does fit through there. I just concepted another design that will run the breather hose on top of the intake, right next to the intercooler. This will allow you to move the intercooler a little closer to the intake and give you some more room on the other side.

Gretch

Remember Tim that part of the restriction is caused by the air oil seperator having to fit between the intake manifold and the rubber elbow, in a location where it can actually push against the elbow. When the intercooler is inserted deeper into the rubber elbow, it makes the space between the elbow and the intake manifold "inflexible". That is one of the reasons my air/oil separator sits as high as it does. Mind you it does not interfere with anything, and in fact could be moved closer to the drivers side, as long as you retain the gravity feed from the bottom of the separator to the passenger cam cover.

FWIW......I got all my "pahts" to fit just fine. I am going to install the rubber pad on the top of my pasenger side fuel rail just for extra safety.....

Flott Leben

Gretch,

It's really coming along, isn't it? Please keep the reports and pictures coming. It appears Tim is constantly improving and modifying - always good to hear.

You are becoming quite the marketing forum for Tim's system. I'm sure many of us are reading this and starting to save up for our eventual purchase.

Thanks!

Gretch

Flott, I posess a big mouth, and it makes a lot of noise when I am on the extreems of happy or un-happy. I don't want to be a marketing forum for anyone, but I do have an appreciation for intellectual honesty.

I am an old man, so I just speak my peace now and don't give a damn if someone may not agree with me.

I also find that there are really very few "stand up guys" in the world so when I find one, I make a point about it. Tim has conducted himself in a honest, courteous, responsive, interested and professional manner. And I insist on saying so.

But that is just the old bastard in me......

Believe me, if I didn't like what I got for my money, I would have gotten my cash back or I would have been Tim's worst nightmare..... But stand up guys are like that.......

Gretch

Flott, I posess a big mouth, and it makes a lot of noise when I am on the extreems of happy or un-happy. I don't want to be a marketing forum for anyone, but I do have an appreciation for intellectual honesty.

I am an old man, so I just speak my peace now and don't give a damn if someone may not agree with me.

I also find that there are really very few "stand up guys" in the world so when I find one, I make a point about it. Tim has conducted himself in a honest, courteous, responsive, interested and professional manner. And I insist on saying so.

But that is just the old bastard in me......

Believe me, if I didn't like what I got for my money, I would have gotten my cash back or I would have been Tim's worst nightmare..... But stand up guys are like that.......

SteveM928

It is good to hear that Tim seems to be pretty responsive and continually working to make improvements, and more importantly listening. It's way too common these days for companies to take a position of "well you're just not doing it right", continue providing the same products, and letting the customer try to figure out a solution on their own.

Gretch

I agree. But let me also add that these "kits" may not be for everyone.....There is a bit more skill needed than just shade tree mechanics to get it done right and not break something in the process. ANyone who thinks they should, with no prior experience of this type, tackle a project of this magnatude and get it done in a limited timeframe is setting themselves up for a big disapointment.

Look at some of the examples here of how much patience and persistence people have had to put into getting repair projects done on our cars. How about the legendary TB/WP replacement. No one here thinks that project should be scheduled for a weekend with out having a fall back position for when things go horribly wrong.......

If you take a project like this on, you should set yourself some reasonable expectations on how long it will take and what course you will take when you run into trouble. Some folks have suggested this kit can be bolted up by a couple of guys working a long weekend. lets say that is a total of 56 hours. I would say it is doable, but two guys are gonna get in eachothers way in that engine bay unless the install is well choriographed. I took my time and I am not done yet. I had some trouble with a couple of bolts that had to be drilled out and so far I have about 60 hours in the project. I guess I could do it again, baring no detours for miscreant bolts, in about 45 or 50 hours, and have it look like the guy who installed it gave a shiite about his work.

Tim has been all the things you have observed, to someone who sets their own expetations too high, Tim risks being the subject of blame syndication.

Gregg K

Love it. Just the way it is.

<small>Of course, I'm sure you know this'll make access to the valve cover a bit more difficult. But well worth it.</small>

Old & New

Access to the valve covers are not more difficult; intercooler & plumbing is out of the way in under five minutes.

Access to timing belt is a bit more difficult... but still well worth it!

Gretch

And one may even argue that point......the hex head bolts that hold the bracket on the water pump, replace the cap head bolts (allen) that hold the front harness, plug looms and engine lift bracket on. The hex head bolts are going to be easier to remove, if my experience at having to drill out the cap head bolts is any indication. I venture to say I could have the blower and air box out of my car in under 15 minutes ( ten bolts in total, all easily accessed and two oil connections). Once that is done, the whole front of the engine is easily accessed, especially since the OE fan shroud is replaced by two low profile fan sets that sit either side of the air box.