The What's My Car Worth? thread
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Response to GeorgeM: 1991 GT, 98,000m, 9/10. Well maintained, unmodified, complete.
March 2019 value: With patience I think $30,000+ is possible. If it has low owner turnover and meticulous records, maybe more. GT's are carrying a premium right now.
March 2019 value: With patience I think $30,000+ is possible. If it has low owner turnover and meticulous records, maybe more. GT's are carrying a premium right now.
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Its safe to say any highly customized 928 is worth more to the owner than a future buyer, even a rare GTS. I agree having a history of being maintained by Doc speaks to the condition of the 928..... and in any used vehicle documentation is key, especially as our cars are deep into the 30 year old range.....even the youngest like Randys is 24 years old.....
How many other 24 year old cars still look modern and perform like a modern car?
How many other 24 year old cars still look modern and perform like a modern car?
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DrNick because insurance done right is about "lost value to you" _not_ just.always the "market". Modifications as you buy them (Investment) mean something different than value on the retail market.
But what are they looking at (NO OFFENSE meant) when an 84 5spd at ~120k(?) is valued at $31,000US?
Is this an agreed value? Is this the Euro market acting entirely differently as I think Ive heard?
I think I would be shocked to get the same check from my insurance for a completely redone, show quality same miles 87 S4 with documentation.
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Its safe to say any highly customized 928 is worth more to the owner than a future buyer, even a rare GTS. I agree having a history of being maintained by Doc speaks to the condition of the 928..... and in any used vehicle documentation is key, especially as our cars are deep into the 30 year old range.....even the youngest like Randys is 24 years old.....
How many other 24 year old cars still look modern and perform like a modern car?
How many other 24 year old cars still look modern and perform like a modern car?
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I'm not sure that anyone, here on Rennlist, understands what it takes to completely "freshen" a GTS engine....make it like new again....much less make it run like a modern car.
I've got a beautiful GTS, here, ~100,000 miles, which had head and head gasket corrosion and had water leak into a cylinder when it sat, which split a cylinder when it was cranked over. It has GT cams, which have more pits and holes than a WWII freighter. It has the early rods...one of which really wasn't happy to have to compress water. The piston to wall clearance is right at the maximum allowable Porsche specification in the back cylinders (from head gaskets developing holes and water not getting to the rear of the engine, properly.
What do you guys think that is going to cost to fix? And what else is there that potentially needs attention at that mileage? Transmission reverse clutches? Torque tube? How are the shocks? Wheel bearings? Axles? What is that car worth?
And then there's Randy's car....super fresh engine. super fresh transmission, and super fresh torque tube. Brand new factory Boge Sport shocks (the best shock made for a 928), wheel bearings, axles, brakes, tires, rear suspension bushings, tires, etc. And it is a stone stock looking fricking rocket, on top of that! The car has 250,000 miles on it....and is essentially brand new. That's worth what?
I learned, 30 years ago, that unless Porsches had super low mileage and were strickly museum pieces, that mileage doesn't mean anything. The "older generation" Porsche (pre '96) cars can be rebuilt, virtually forever. And with water cooled cars, which are all starting to really "suffer" from coolant not getting changed every two years....even low mileage cars can (and generally do) have major grief (way more grief than high mileage cars.)
I've got a beautiful GTS, here, ~100,000 miles, which had head and head gasket corrosion and had water leak into a cylinder when it sat, which split a cylinder when it was cranked over. It has GT cams, which have more pits and holes than a WWII freighter. It has the early rods...one of which really wasn't happy to have to compress water. The piston to wall clearance is right at the maximum allowable Porsche specification in the back cylinders (from head gaskets developing holes and water not getting to the rear of the engine, properly.
What do you guys think that is going to cost to fix? And what else is there that potentially needs attention at that mileage? Transmission reverse clutches? Torque tube? How are the shocks? Wheel bearings? Axles? What is that car worth?
And then there's Randy's car....super fresh engine. super fresh transmission, and super fresh torque tube. Brand new factory Boge Sport shocks (the best shock made for a 928), wheel bearings, axles, brakes, tires, rear suspension bushings, tires, etc. And it is a stone stock looking fricking rocket, on top of that! The car has 250,000 miles on it....and is essentially brand new. That's worth what?
I learned, 30 years ago, that unless Porsches had super low mileage and were strickly museum pieces, that mileage doesn't mean anything. The "older generation" Porsche (pre '96) cars can be rebuilt, virtually forever. And with water cooled cars, which are all starting to really "suffer" from coolant not getting changed every two years....even low mileage cars can (and generally do) have major grief (way more grief than high mileage cars.)
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Have fun with your 928's people!
greg brown
714 879 9072
GregBBRD@aol.com
Semi-retired, as of Feb 1, 2023.
The days of free technical advice are over.
Free consultations will no longer be available.
Will still be in the shop, isolated and exclusively working on project cars, developmental work and products, engines and transmissions.
Have fun with your 928's people!
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And then there's Randy's car....super fresh engine. super fresh transmission, and super fresh torque tube. Brand new factory Boge Sport shocks (the best shock made for a 928), wheel bearings, axles, brakes, tires, rear suspension bushings, tires, etc. And it is a stone stock looking fricking rocket, on top of that! The car has 250,000 miles on it....and is essentially brand new. That's worth what?
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If you have to ask the price...
I do need to replace the leather on the front seats, but cant wait 2 years for Paul Champagne.
Any other options?
I do need to replace the leather on the front seats, but cant wait 2 years for Paul Champagne.
Any other options?
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Rob Budd does great work. Greg Brown, knows of a shop in his area which may be a better fit for you. Rob's shop in in Michigan I believe. You'd have to send him your seats.
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I'll ask GB about his local recommendation.
Thanks, Joe.
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We have also seen some great work come out of his shop. So consistency (and holier than thou attitude) seem to be the issues.
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