Valve removal etc
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Planning ahead a few days here...
Is there an alternative tool you can use to remove the valves..springs/assembly from the 32v'ers besides the "factory" tool?
If not where can one be had?
Do you rent them Mark/Jim?
Ive seen other tools...Summit etc etc..will they work?
Anyone have a valve removal tool that i can rent/use?
its going to be done 64 times, so i want a good tool. I dont want to jerrry rig something each time..have things slip...scrape etc etc.
Any TIPS? ive searched the archives but nothing too specific that i can find.
Same question for the valve guide removal and installation.
Is there an alternative tool you can use to remove the valves..springs/assembly from the 32v'ers besides the "factory" tool?
If not where can one be had?
Do you rent them Mark/Jim?
Ive seen other tools...Summit etc etc..will they work?
Anyone have a valve removal tool that i can rent/use?
its going to be done 64 times, so i want a good tool. I dont want to jerrry rig something each time..have things slip...scrape etc etc.
Any TIPS? ive searched the archives but nothing too specific that i can find.
Same question for the valve guide removal and installation.
Tony, dont think you have much option but to go with a proper valve spring compressor. I would just look for a well built one (preferably not just sheet metal) to rent - you are not going to use it regularly I suspect? I have through necessity used other methods, but I dont recommend it - leads to injuries, damaged parts, lost collets etc.
jp 83, BTDT
jp 83, BTDT
a regular spring compressor will work but it will need to have an attachment welded on basically an extender on the part that sits on the valve had, check out www.alexroy.net he is a 924/931 nut and has instructions on fabbing up an extender,
Hi Tony
I'll take some pics of the Valve Spring Compressor I've been using in situ, it cost about $70 and this is approximately what it looks like
The disadvantage is that it's heavy and clumbersome and it's easy to damage surfaces you've spent hours cleaning (pic to follow). It also means you need to be able to hold the head off the surface you're working on.
If I were you I would purchase the type shown in the WSM which is probably about $120:
This compresses the spring from above only by bolting directly on to the head. This also means you can replace valve seals with the heads on quite safely as long as you remove the spark plug and use a dowel to ensure the piston is at the top of the cylinder so you don't drop the valve.
Are you really sure you want to replace your valve guides? Looks like a pig of a job and I doubt yours will be anywhere near the tolerance allowed (0.8mm at 10mm open), although I didn't actually measure mine it seemed like it was no more that half that. Now that I have a guage ready for the cam timing I might just check it just out of curiosity.
I'll take some pics of the Valve Spring Compressor I've been using in situ, it cost about $70 and this is approximately what it looks like
The disadvantage is that it's heavy and clumbersome and it's easy to damage surfaces you've spent hours cleaning (pic to follow). It also means you need to be able to hold the head off the surface you're working on.
If I were you I would purchase the type shown in the WSM which is probably about $120:
This compresses the spring from above only by bolting directly on to the head. This also means you can replace valve seals with the heads on quite safely as long as you remove the spark plug and use a dowel to ensure the piston is at the top of the cylinder so you don't drop the valve.
Are you really sure you want to replace your valve guides? Looks like a pig of a job and I doubt yours will be anywhere near the tolerance allowed (0.8mm at 10mm open), although I didn't actually measure mine it seemed like it was no more that half that. Now that I have a guage ready for the cam timing I might just check it just out of curiosity.
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Thanks UK
Im not sure if i will replace the guides but i definitely want to pull the valves as im probably going to have some head work done and will probably lap or check the valve seating...do some port polishing. et cetc. Plus, as the slippery slope dictates, ive gone this far i may as well pull them out.
1)to see how they all look
2) so i can learn how to do it.
Im not sure if i will replace the guides but i definitely want to pull the valves as im probably going to have some head work done and will probably lap or check the valve seating...do some port polishing. et cetc. Plus, as the slippery slope dictates, ive gone this far i may as well pull them out.
1)to see how they all look
2) so i can learn how to do it.
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Tony, this is the sort of damage I've caused when being careless with the spring compressor
http://www.928.org.uk/~ukkid35/proje...ture%20131.jpg
And this is how it works in situ
http://www.928.org.uk/~ukkid35/proje...ture%20132.jpg
http://www.928.org.uk/~ukkid35/proje...ture%20131.jpg
And this is how it works in situ
http://www.928.org.uk/~ukkid35/proje...ture%20132.jpg
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Toatl cost..under 24 bucks.
16 down...16 to go..
19.99 for the tools at sears..heck the scrap PVC pipe was actually a free bee at Home depot!
Worked like a charm! Hopefully putting them back will be just as easy
16 down...16 to go..
19.99 for the tools at sears..heck the scrap PVC pipe was actually a free bee at Home depot!
Worked like a charm! Hopefully putting them back will be just as easy
Really like your solution, avoids any possibility of damaging the head.
If you're going to use a pair of valve seal pliers to remove the seals (rather than the Porsche tool), be sure to wrap them in "carpet tape" or something similar, again to avoid damage. Let us know what you decide to use to re-install the seals.
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If you're going to use a pair of valve seal pliers to remove the seals (rather than the Porsche tool), be sure to wrap them in "carpet tape" or something similar, again to avoid damage. Let us know what you decide to use to re-install the seals.
Hopefully putting them back will be just as easy
Originally posted by Chris
Check out Napaonline ... they have a version of the spring compressor that works without removing the head.
Check out Napaonline ... they have a version of the spring compressor that works without removing the head.
Chris,
Can you point me to it?
I could not find it.

