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Old 02-12-2018, 09:27 PM
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Hi,

I have been a member here for a long time and used to own a 944. I am now interested in a 928. I am not interested in an automatic and want a manual car.
My preference is an early 928 with manual transmission. Must have no rust and no major body repairs/ damage. I will consider a CIS car but prefer fuel injected. Also prefer no sunroof but that is not a big deal.

I am located in Vancouver, British Columbia and can possibly also pick up a vehicle from Washington / Oregon but I have never gone through the process of importing a car so I don't know how difficult it is to get a vehicle to pass inspection and to get it insured in Canada.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Tim_944
Hi,

I have been a member here for a long time and used to own a 944. I am now interested in a 928. I am not interested in an automatic and want a manual car.
My preference is an early 928 with manual transmission. Must have no rust and no major body repairs/ damage. I will consider a CIS car but prefer fuel injected. Also prefer no sunroof but that is not a big deal.

I am located in Vancouver, British Columbia and can possibly also pick up a vehicle from Washington / Oregon but I have never gone through the process of importing a car so I don't know how difficult it is to get a vehicle to pass inspection and to get it insured in Canada.

Thanks.
All the info is available on RIV.ca, it's very simple to import to Canada. But with our **** dollar I would be looking in Canada first. Also prices are higher in the states then they are here, especially on clean 5 spds.

I know of a 78 that may go on the market in the spring. Also a local rennlister has an 87 5 spd with LSD (white on black) that was just down the line from mine, he was testing the waters back in the fall at 35k cdn. PM me if you want any contact info.

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Well, "CIS" is fuel injection. It's the Bosch mechanicak K-jet injection. It's on the 78 & 79 US cars.

Later cars are electronic injection.
80 - 84 US are "L-Jet with the "Barn Door" Air Fuel Meter (AFM).
85 and later US are LH 2.2 with the hot wire Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor.

Euros had CIS from 78 - 83, then LH from 84 on.
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Originally Posted by Adamant1971
All the info is available on RIV.ca, it's very simple to import to Canada. But with our **** dollar I would be looking in Canada first. Also prices are higher in the states then they are here, especially on clean 5 spds.

I know of a 78 that may go on the market in the spring. Also a local rennlister has an 87 5 spd with LSD (white on black) that was just down the line from mine, he was testing the waters back in the fall at 35k cdn. PM me if you want any contact info.

I will let you know. I should have mentioned my budget. I was hoping to spend under $30,000.00 of your year, options and condition makes a huge difference.

I actually like the look of the early 928s (no wing and early style rear lights) the best and would prefer to have a clean early manual 928. I am not sure what the price range would be for a good condition early manual 928. I have searched craigslist and not many 928s here in my area are listed and when they are listed they are almost always auto and often beat up and in terrible condition.d
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin Joe
Well, "CIS" is fuel injection. It's the Bosch mechanicak K-jet injection. It's on the 78 & 79 US cars.

Later cars are electronic injection.
80 - 84 US are "L-Jet with the "Barn Door" Air Fuel Meter (AFM).
85 and later US are LH 2.2 with the hot wire Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor.

Euros had CIS from 78 - 83, then LH from 84 on.
Sorry, that is what I meant to say. I know CIS is fuel injection but I prefer the later systems. I find that CIS can be very difficult to tune properly if it is not running right. I am okay with a CIS car as long as it is well maintained and running right.
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Originally Posted by Tim_944
I will let you know. I should have mentioned my budget. I was hoping to spend under $30,000.00 of your year, options and condition makes a huge difference.

I actually like the look of the early 928s (no wing and early style rear lights) the best and would prefer to have a clean early manual 928. I am not sure what the price range would be for a good condition early manual 928. I have searched craigslist and not many 928s here in my area are listed and when they are listed they are almost always auto and often beat up and in terrible condition.d
Well, the place to start is the "928s For Sale" sticky thread. Be willing to travel, be willing and ready to move fairly quickly if the right car pops up (but beware of the 'wrong' car - it's a tough line to walk). Keep in mind that the sticky is never 'cleaned out', so anything more than a few weeks old is likely to be gone in one way or another.
Understand that autos outnumber 5 speeds by about 4 to 1. And the autos aren't all that bad. But I understand, a manual was a "must have" for me too.
On the plus side, a clean, early, EFI car shouldn't be all that much. The 80-84 US cars are the 'least loved' of the bunch.

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Sorry, that is what I meant to say. I know CIS is fuel injection but I prefer the later systems. I find that CIS can be very difficult to tune properly if it is not running right. I am okay with a CIS car as long as it is well maintained and running right.
Got it. I kinda figured that's what you meant.

The EFI systems are much less 'labor intensive', as long as the brain box is working.

But, the CIS systems aren't all that bad*.

Getting them set properly can be 'fiddly', but the procedures are pretty straight forward.
Once they are right, they run very well.
You just have to run them on a regular basis. If they get plugged up with old gas, they tend to have issues (that's one of the reasons CIS has such a bad rep).

* - disclaimer: I don't have a CIS car and have never worked on one. My entire understanding is from what I've read on here. But there are folks on here who can tear them down, rebuild them and set then in their sleep. That knowledge is on here and available for the asking.
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If you do not want a CIS car, and also no spoilers, you'll be looking for a US spec 80 to 82 (non-sport version), as the spoilers started with the S model in 1983. Joe can provide insight on the RoW configurations. I have an early one, a 78. I've had an 84, 85 and 86.5 in the past. The CIS is a fantastic injection system, so I would not worry too much about that. As Joe said, they can be fiddly, but only if they get out of whack. I do not do my own CIS work, but have an indy shop that is very good do that for me. It is not that expensive at all to get the pressures set right by someone who knows what they are doing.

Here is a good candidate in your price range, altho a CIS car: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Porsch...aZrLX&vxp=mtr. Yes, it has some needs cosmetically (and do a ppi to make sure mechanicals are good), but it looks pretty nice, and at your budget, there may not be too many condition A or B cars out there anymore in that range. I'd offer $15 or $16K for the brown car, and budget $10K for the interior work with Rob Budd and for removing the pin stripe (if it can be done without a full respray), and you'd have a very nice, early fairly low miles example within your budget.
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bringing a car into Canada is easy , if its 15 years or older
try contacting Colin he may be able to help find one , and certainly can provide a inspection
PM me for his contact info
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I picked up my 79 manual, no sunroof, no rub strips, locally a few years ago before the price jump. It needed (still needs) to get the fueling sorted. It sat for 10 years with previous owner. I feel guilty for ignoring the girl. Funny how babies, renovations and life get in the way.

Keep looking, a good one will pop up.



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