Want to "Make like new" my recent purchase
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Read it.
It will cover the different terms and initials and acronyms we use.
It will also cover the different variations.
Pics.
Seriously.
Read it.
It will cover the different terms and initials and acronyms we use.
It will also cover the different variations.
Pics.
Seriously.
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Very common mistake Porsche mechanic usually isn't a good idea for a 928, unless you have unlimited funds to train them on specifics of the 928. Much of course is the same, but enough is different that almost no task is a good idea to assume its one of the its the same and not one of the its a bit different. Most mechanics hate that, and charge accordingly, or wing it and deal with the results later.
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It's still an "S3", but it's commonly called an '86.5. Same 288hp engine as the '85/86, but with the next generation brakes, suspension, and dual exhaust.
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<<Where to get info on M/Y>>
Go to 928oc.org There are links to production model year and the evolution of the car, it contains material from a site created by Phil Tong, look for that and more. Membership is not required for this, but IIRC, it is for technical advise threads. Like here, the cost is cheap and the information is priceless if it saves you a mere 5 minutes looking for a ground connection.
Go to 928oc.org There are links to production model year and the evolution of the car, it contains material from a site created by Phil Tong, look for that and more. Membership is not required for this, but IIRC, it is for technical advise threads. Like here, the cost is cheap and the information is priceless if it saves you a mere 5 minutes looking for a ground connection.
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Your approach will make you a small fortune (assume you have a large one). "One thing at a time" sounds good in theory, but I suggest starting with an initial goal, intermediate goal, and then long-term goal. You've stated the long-term goal - Make it like new! The path to get there can be fraught with pitfalls and unintended excursions that can even make albinos go pale!
My suggestion would be to first make it reliable, and driveable. You Mech shoudl be able to give you a general estimate for that. I suggest adding 50% or more if he is not familiar with 928s specifically. They are different. Also, double the time he estimates for the same reason. Once that is taken care of, then you can focus on visual condition - interior, exterior, and engine bay. The last one is where the OCD can really hit you. Just ask our resident OCD expert Rob Edwards about that. Do you want to re-plate all the fasteners and brackets to get that NEW look? It can be done, for a price.
Read the New Visitor FAQ at the top. Lots of goo info there. Posting pic will also help us give you some direction. Good luck and welcome!
My suggestion would be to first make it reliable, and driveable. You Mech shoudl be able to give you a general estimate for that. I suggest adding 50% or more if he is not familiar with 928s specifically. They are different. Also, double the time he estimates for the same reason. Once that is taken care of, then you can focus on visual condition - interior, exterior, and engine bay. The last one is where the OCD can really hit you. Just ask our resident OCD expert Rob Edwards about that. Do you want to re-plate all the fasteners and brackets to get that NEW look? It can be done, for a price.
Read the New Visitor FAQ at the top. Lots of goo info there. Posting pic will also help us give you some direction. Good luck and welcome!
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Perhaps the definition of "make like new" is what is being waltzed around here. Somehow I sense that the intent is simply to have a fully functional 65,000 mile 1986 model 928 which is far different than a B C refresh or Rob's remove and caress every single nut and bolt Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Always best to remember that generally speaking it is easy to spend 2,000-3,000 per year on these cars. Get a neglected one and you may EASILY have four or five years to catch up on.....
Try doing a FULL restoration to better than new and you better have $100,000 available if you are paying for labor.
Always best to remember that generally speaking it is easy to spend 2,000-3,000 per year on these cars. Get a neglected one and you may EASILY have four or five years to catch up on.....
Try doing a FULL restoration to better than new and you better have $100,000 available if you are paying for labor.
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You guys are AWESOME.
Thank you so much for all the direction.
James Bailey described my objective perfectly. Just a good all around driver that is super reliable PLUS all the 928 benefits.
Meeting with the mechanic today and will report back.
Gary Newbie
Thank you so much for all the direction.
James Bailey described my objective perfectly. Just a good all around driver that is super reliable PLUS all the 928 benefits.
Meeting with the mechanic today and will report back.
Gary Newbie
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Um, Yeah....what Andrew and Mr. Bailey said...
For a reality check.....
You really need to talk to someone who knows these cars specifically. Period.
Not close by, but a conversation/evaluation of the project at hand should be sought from an expert in the 928. A generic mechanic IS SIMPLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CUT IT HERE. Not to demean anyone, but the 928 is unique in many ways.
Sorry, didn't mean to over-emphasize...but....if you have to drive or ship the car south..i.e. to Greg Brown for example, it could still save you thousands of dollars at the end of the day.
Just my opinion of course, but I've been in this asylum now for almost a decade.....and, over my time messing with cars in general, I've had the opportunity to do some work on the older 911 cars and lots of work on our 928 cars. Two different concepts, and need to be treated as such.
If you can afford to have someone LEARN the 928 on your tab, then please proceed and keep us all advised here as to how this plays out for you. If not, then see my first point above.
Just trying to help out.
Best,
Rob.
You really need to talk to someone who knows these cars specifically. Period.
Not close by, but a conversation/evaluation of the project at hand should be sought from an expert in the 928. A generic mechanic IS SIMPLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CUT IT HERE. Not to demean anyone, but the 928 is unique in many ways.
Sorry, didn't mean to over-emphasize...but....if you have to drive or ship the car south..i.e. to Greg Brown for example, it could still save you thousands of dollars at the end of the day.
Just my opinion of course, but I've been in this asylum now for almost a decade.....and, over my time messing with cars in general, I've had the opportunity to do some work on the older 911 cars and lots of work on our 928 cars. Two different concepts, and need to be treated as such.
If you can afford to have someone LEARN the 928 on your tab, then please proceed and keep us all advised here as to how this plays out for you. If not, then see my first point above.
Just trying to help out.
Best,
Rob.
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Follow up...
Dave C. (Worf928) and Sean R. are also excellent resources. I don't want to exclude the folks who have helped me along the way, but I think Greg would be the closest to you geographically speaking.
I think you need to do a lot of reading on this forum and go from there, before you seriously commit to anything.
Dave C. (Worf928) and Sean R. are also excellent resources. I don't want to exclude the folks who have helped me along the way, but I think Greg would be the closest to you geographically speaking.
I think you need to do a lot of reading on this forum and go from there, before you seriously commit to anything.
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First, the mechanic is not an "expert". He worked at a dealership about 20 years ago. He has done work for local Porsche owners and they encouraged me to see him. He restores anything, and is not strictly Porsche. My list, along with all of the thoughtful recommendations here will act as a starting point and if we, he, sees other items we will possibly add them. The deal is work on a task and get paid then go for the next one..My concern is that the work will drag on for months as I just become another project. I have seen that happen to friends in other areas.
Hey! Steve G - The last four numbers of the vin are 1120. so I guess that means S4 with ?????? Where can I find out details of different models?
I am located in Redding, CA a small town in far northern California that has one Porsche trained mechanic. Good guy too. He just did not want to deal with the car for a long time.
I m too much a newbie to know the lingo. I know TB/WP but what are TPS, ISV, MAF.
Will get pictures up tomorrow.
Thanks to all.
Hey! Steve G - The last four numbers of the vin are 1120. so I guess that means S4 with ?????? Where can I find out details of different models?
I am located in Redding, CA a small town in far northern California that has one Porsche trained mechanic. Good guy too. He just did not want to deal with the car for a long time.
I m too much a newbie to know the lingo. I know TB/WP but what are TPS, ISV, MAF.
Will get pictures up tomorrow.
Thanks to all.