David Ray

M758 said it best - good driver and good tires (street or R) ! Pick'em

Tom R.

With the hypertech chip they PO put in the lower thermostat. I doubt it helps that much.

so thats brake fade, i thought it was just lousy brakes. but isnt just about everything lousy when you come from a set of brembos.

tifosiman

Good to see you back in the fold, Penz. How are things?

Jeremy

W88951

Sorry, but with a good driver in each, the Firebird will win hands down. FStock is very fast class and with a good driver the the Firechickens are very fast, even though they are very heavy. I have no love for the Firebirds, only that I have seen many of them race, some with good drivers and some without. The good drivers are very very fast.

Ken

It also will depend greatly on the design of the course. If there are alot of fast open sections, the Firebird will have a great advantage. If it's all tight and twisty, the 944 will have the advantage.

Its interesting to watch at our autocrosses how close the 944 class is to say the 993/996 class. On tight courses, we're within .5 seconds. On the open courses we can be behind by as much as 3 seconds.

Penz

good! you?

hows my old 944 treating you?
Its looking nice

I don't know what got me back into visiting this place. I saw a couple 944 Turbos on the net and I was hooked again and just have to have one! Just not in the finances right now, but hopefully that will change before next summer.

tifosiman

Glad to see that you have come back to your senses!

The 944 has been well. I have spent a little bit of money on upgrades since I bought it. All in all it has done very well, the result of the idea of buying a good example to start with.

Still in Northern Ohio?

Jeremy

Penz

took me long enough to come back to my senses. haha

thats cool, looks like you have put some time and money into it. I really like the way it looks.

yep, still up here. I live a house down now (its an apartment)from where u came and bought the 944.
maybe when the time comes and I purchase a 951, I can stop down and we can have a meet. Maybe get some other people together and stop.

Josh

Tom R.

Andrew,
from what im reading on the mullet board the FStock camaros have significant suspension upgrades. Stock for stock the 944 handles better on tight turns. My mullet has about $3000 in suspension mods (which includes 17" rims & rubber) and even with twice the horsepower it wouldnt keep up with my brothers 84 NA let alone my S2. Strano and the other drivers that dominate FStock are probably exceptional drivers that would do even better in a 944.

A few people on the mullet board that have been in 944s told me i couldnt compare the solid axle of the mullet to the IRS of the 944.

While my Z28 is a respectible handling car, the 944 is just plain better when it comes to handling at the extreme.

Trust me I've autocrossed my RX7 & S2, and have tested the Z28. It just wont do it.

At an autocross last year I lent my S2 to a very fast driver that arrived in the afternoon. without walking the course, on crappy street tires in cold weather and not caring, he knocked about nine seconds off my best time his first run. he gave me one pointer that knocked five seconds off my previous runs. In the end with two or three runs he was about three seconds off FTD in a car he never sat in before, on street tires against race cars, 996s etc. check out www.metronypca.org the autocross section and the march 2002 autocross. look in P9 and you will see the results. also look where the corvette came in - also driven by a fast driver in his own car and he walked the course.

jp944

The Chevy Caprice police cars had a VERY similar brake setup. Fade was a huge complaint from the officers. I guess the moral to the story is that if you're being chased by a cop in a Caprice, pull over immediately. The longer the pursuit, the more likely he'll rear end you.

Carrera51

KITT vs. the General Lee. If it's Luke Duke vs. Michael Knight, The General Lee wins. KITT driving himself, KITT wins.

The big question is this...KITT vs. KARR

jp944

Is Super Pursuit Mode allowed?

Devia

KITT would win hands down, duh!

jp944

What about KITT driven by the Duke boys vs the General Lee driven by their 'cousins'?

KARR vs. the trucks in Maximum Overdrive?

Vanishing Point Challenger vs. BULLITT Charger?

Devia

Let's throw Christine into the mix, while we're hypothesizing.