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Timing belt, fact or Internet folklore?

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Old 09-17-2015, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mdj577
Do I follow the 3yr interval, or can I push it further because along further?
Are you a gambling man?


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Originally Posted by mikey_audiogeek
Think you mean elastic behaviour instead of ductile? Definitely don't want ductile behaviour in a timing belt...

Good point on the abrasion. New gears are available.

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Yes, thank you. Wrong choice of terms - should be elastic.
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Originally Posted by Van
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Ha!!!! Thanks for the dose of reality Van. Discretion is, as they say, the better part of valor.

I have watched and enjoyed some of your video tutorials. Good stuff!!
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I was thinking of this thread this morning as I went for 15lbs of boost in my Volvo 2.4T.

I get 50,000+ miles out of the belts on that car. I am having the WP done today for what I believe is the first time at 126,000 miles. And that car gets flogged!
Old 09-19-2015, 10:20 AM
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Does anyone have a timing belt tool recommendation? Other than the factory tool?
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http://members.rennlist.com/v1uhoh/checking.htm

http://www.jdsporsche.com/cambelt.html
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I don't recommend this long an interval but my 1984 944 with 22,000 miles had the original belt on it when I bought it in 2010. Changed that right away
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Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944

by the book, you have to remove the crank pulley and rear belt cover to do the timing belt, which is not actually necessary, but it adds extra labor time at $100+/hr at a typical shop.
Does it really say remove the pulley and rear cover to change the belts, I thought that was for the water pump ? I didn't when I did the belts and pulleys. I wonder how long ago the cambelt tensioning procedure was written, and if it took account of the extra tension applied when the head/block expand at working temp.
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Originally Posted by blade7
Does it really say remove the pulley and rear cover to change the belts, I thought that was for the water pump ? I didn't when I did the belts and pulleys. I wonder how long ago the cambelt tensioning procedure was written, and if it took account of the extra tension applied when the head/block expand at working temp.
The rear cover does not need to come off, i usually pull the crank pulley to make it easier to get the T-belt on for the NA and S/S2. On the 968 engine the crank pulley must come off due to the belt guides that it has.
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Thanks Jay.

Will this tool work on the 944?
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Originally Posted by Arominus
The rear cover does not need to come off,
I know.
Old 09-21-2015, 10:35 AM
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OK, l didn't want to dredge this up but thinking about this. l think l may have a answer. First a few things that helped me come to this conclusion.
It's been said here the timing belt is a new technology in 83. My earliest recollection of a timing belt used was the 1966 Pontiac OHC 6 cylinder. It's been said here it's a big 4 cylinder engine is hard on belts. Chrysler's 2.5L with a Turbo makes 150HP. It's been said here it's the power pluses of a 4 cylinder engine. Fiat and VW both had 4 cylinder diesel engines. Most 4 cylinder engine's the timing belt also drive's the oil pump. The 944 is the only car that l know of that the oil pump is driven off the crankshaft.
So what's my conclusion, as Dr. House says, everybody lies. I bet you a lot of those belt failure's the belt was never change. I also believe a lot of diy's (and professional mechanics too) have no idea how tight a belt should be or know a good roller form bad one. Yes some may have bad luck, but I just can't see how the 944 timing belt arrangement being problematic.

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You mean water pump? The oil pump is driven by the crank pulley


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