Moe

Anybody try this, (supposedly compatible /with R-12) Fridgerant?

Matt H

Has been known to eat seals. Just my experience though.
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Magown

I've owned at least 5 cars that have had Freeze 12 in it. It works great. No reason to pay for R-12 anymore.

Matt H

I should say that it does cool well.
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Moe

Wow, I didn't expect anyone to say it actually WORKS!

I'll check into it further, I don't think it requires EPA cert.

I have 5 cars and only one uses 134A.

HY M8NC

The only negative I can say about Freeze 12 is, if it was really a low cost/equal performing solution-do you really think the manufacturer's would not be using it? They only recognize 2 refrigerants, R-134a and R-12.

I have heard the "eats seals" thing as well.

ldsmith104

Retro fit to 134a, simple and easy to do. SAE (society of Automotive Engineers) Does not recommend any blends. Freeze 12 is a blend, 80 percent of which is 134a. Yes you are required by law to be certified and have the correct equipment to work on all Mobile AC systems. The Standard at least for now is R-134a, until that changes I would not recommend any other alternative. Recover what is left in you system now replace the o-rings and the Drier, change over the fittings, put on a retrofit label, add pag oil and R-134 and drive on.

Magown

Moe, since you are down in Foley, I would highly recommend going with the Freeze 12. I'm not that much farther north then you and have tried it all 3 types of refrigerant (R-12, R-134a, Freeze-12) and in our part of the country a 134a conversion in a 944 85.5+ / 968 isn't worth a flip. It'll cool great during long periods of highway driving, but in slow moving traffic and sitting still it's a different story. Better tint those windows.

Raceit

The only thing I've heard is that its petroleum based, so it's a fire hazard. It might make things worse if you get into an accident and an a/c line gets ruptured.

But it is kind of eire that you can find info all over the net about it, yet there are so few that actually use it.

Moe

Stephen, I figure I have nothing to lose but a few bucks, because if I do convert I'll spend more money for less cooling. My Q-45 has the 134A and came with the proper parts etc. from the factory, yet my 85 F-150 on R-12 is much more cooler. Heck, all I'd have to do is fill up with the freeze 12. Funny thing about my 89 (R-12) Maxima, I've had it refilled ONCE (1999) since 89, and that was because it needed the part under the dash. I'll give the freeze 12 a shot.

instigator

you do not have to be certified to work on your own car(a/c sys). and to boot you dont have to be certified to buy freeze 12 or any other sub for r12 the only cert you have to have are those for r12 & r22 and for those you can take a open book test at home from M.A.C.S for about $15-$25

dont let the EPA fool ya, it aint the CFCs in the R stuff that depleting the ozone either.

the only percaution is not to mix the stuff with the R12

Moe

I don't buy none of that "ozone" BS anyway. It's all about patents, and MONEY, nothing more than a scam.

Sam Lin

You got it!

Sam

JCNNJC

Where do you find freeze 12 at? sounds interesting

Brian Wilson

hey, if i can find an ENTIRE A/C system for my car i'll be good to go!!!

Stupid euro spec with no A/C...