esanmiguel

I want to kick Barney's ***.

Ag951

Wow...that's a good optical illusion. Hats off to the artist. But now that I see the mouse, I can't see the...ahem...'cat' anymore.

jabbadeznuts, does the kitten have his paws up in that picture because he's playing, or begging for his life?

Fishey

Ok, no 16year old should be driving a P-car give her a buick or something for altleast 4 months....

RSflared72e

I can't believe anyone would object to that image - lighten up, guys. I say put it back.

brrt50cal

I'll agree with that 100%. Not that I'm trying to tell you how to parent or anything but trust me, I've seen how teens drive these days. Ask me, I'm one of them. My first car was a Caprice Station Wagon. Then I moved onto a 92 Pontiac Bonneville. The Pontiac was safe, reliable, and had enough power to get out in traffic. There is no need to give someone who is just starting to drive, a German sports car. I've seen too many of my buddies hurt in their Acuras, Chevy's, Toyota's because they were being dumb. I don't care if the 944 only has 150hp. That makes no difference. It will do over 110 in a hurry and that makes a difference. Teens are teens, no matter who they belong to.

ahofam123

Age doesn't always correlate to maturity. If Scott teaches his daughter how to drive well, and if she understands that she is in control of a deadly, 3,000 lb. weapon, then she can be safe driving any car.

nine-44

Very true, a 944 is a very safe car though, I spun mine into a barrier wall at 130 and walked away, not bragging on me or the incedent, merely the design and engineering of the 944.

brrt50cal

That's not the issue aho. Trust me I understand about age correlating to maturity. I get along better with people twice my age than my own age group. My father is an excellent driver and I went to 2 different driving schools. I understand full well how deadly a car can be. But when you're out with your friends, maturity goes out the window. Hope people realize that.

User 41221

Okay, okay... number one, if y'all don't think that picture is inappropriate for certain age groups, then I am not sure I will be able to communicate to you what the problem with having it on an all ages public forum is.

I do NOT find it offensive or objectionable myself, however, it is not appropriate for my daughter to see. I have a choice to make... either forbid her from coming on to Rennlist, ask John D to enforce the rules as outlined by the TOS or ask the offending party nicely to remove the objectionable material. I made the request of esanmiguel, who responded immediately by pulling it off his avatar, and in doing so, earned my respect and gratitude. That says a lot for this community, in my opinion. I cannot protect my daughter from every objectionable thing that she will encounter in the world or on the internet, and I trust that when she does come across something that is inappropriate for her, that I have done a good enough job as a parent that she will leave it immediately. I know she isn't perfect, but she has always been VERY good about tell right from wrong, and making the right choice. That, my friends, is just one reason why I have no doubt that she will be driving a Porsche when she is 16. She knows she has to earn the right to have that car, and she consistently demonstrates that she is worthy of that trust.

Hey, brrt, do me a favor. Please edit your post as well. Esanmiguel was nice enough to do it, follow his example. It does not meet the requirements set forth by the Rennlist TOS, and if you won't do for me, at least show some respect for John D, who has put his sweat and money into creating a public site that we all enjoy. Otherwise, I am guessing John D will get involved, and will remove it himself.

Regards,

User 41221

Um...

I must be getting old or else I just have a dirty mind. That is very clearly a picture of a computer mouse... at least I now have something I can tell my daughter if she asks. I didn't see that the first time I looked.

For what its worth, I HATE censorship.

Regards,

brrt50cal

That's right, it is a computer mouse. That's why I had a hard time believing people would get offended by something so damn stupid. It's an optical illusion, that's all. And if kids got on here and knew what the illusion stood for anyway, taking the picture of a hand on a mouse off isn't going to help them any.

User 41221

well, it could be that I am so old my vision is just getting bad... :P

Ag951

I was wondering why you were so offended by Logitech.

For what it's worth Scott, you're supposed to see the picture the "dirty" way. It's lined up perfectly and the mouse and the pad are the perfect color.
But really you'd only think of it as the 'other' thing if you've seen them handled that way, which hopefully your 12-year old daughter hasn't.

I think you should let her drive the car at 16. Use it as a reward: as long as she gets good grades, stays away from drinking, smoking, and drugs, refrains from driving like a psycho, and just behaves well in general she gets to drive it.
It's much easier to get a subject to behave as desired by positive reinforcement (giving something desired in exchange for 'good' behavior) than by negative punishment (inflicting something undesired in exchange for 'bad' behavior).

nine-44

Hmmm, I gues I got a dirty mind? lol, I see it now. I gue my old vision isn't so good either, that sucks too, I'm only 24!

led

As long as the gun doesn't go off accidentally.