not a rice fan but.......
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Originally posted by iloveporsches
Why does everyone think Japanesse engines spontaneously explode?
Why does everyone think Japanesse engines spontaneously explode?
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As for the above comment it depends. I bought a 3 liter Mitsubishi engined van, new, which at 70k was already smoking blue stacks through the exhaust. As well as a big mess of oil leakage from valve covers, ect. In comparison my Toyota engine is bone dry, tight as new with no oil loss at 135k, amazing!
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This "econo" box has had more time to work out it's bugs from version to version than just about anything we're driving. It's now on version 8.
The misnomer that this is an "econobox" with a big engine is false. Actually it's a deturned Group N pro rally car in sheeps clothing. The body is just along for the ride. Same lines as the Mazda 323 GTX, Audi Turbo Coupe Quattros, etc. with big brakes, a high HP engine, and 4 wheel drive.
Mitsubishi's been at this a LONG time and I think this car is about as refined as it gets in its class.
With that said, I'd never trade my Porsche for it. But as a daily driver, I bet it will be a grin inducing ride.
The misnomer that this is an "econobox" with a big engine is false. Actually it's a deturned Group N pro rally car in sheeps clothing. The body is just along for the ride. Same lines as the Mazda 323 GTX, Audi Turbo Coupe Quattros, etc. with big brakes, a high HP engine, and 4 wheel drive.
Mitsubishi's been at this a LONG time and I think this car is about as refined as it gets in its class.
With that said, I'd never trade my Porsche for it. But as a daily driver, I bet it will be a grin inducing ride.
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Originally posted by jp944
It reminds me of what Dodge did with the Omni. Anybody remember the Shelby Omni GLH?
It reminds me of what Dodge did with the Omni. Anybody remember the Shelby Omni GLH?
The EVO is a pretty sweet car, and from the test results that I have seen, a pretty fast car to boot. The rear end needs some work, but the rest of the car is well done.
I'd still have to go with the Scooby.....
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Originally posted by Z-man
It's an echonobox commuter car.....
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I'm not particularly impressed.
It's an echonobox commuter car.....
....with a monster engine.
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I'm not particularly impressed.
In rally racing, the Evo has a better record than the 911 GT1 does in LeMans racing.
The Evo is one of the best four door cars around, comparable to a BMW M5 or MB S55 AMG in performance.
If Porsche made a sedan, it would be compared to the Evo.
Originally posted by cmoss
Wait 2 yearas and get it for $12K...
Wait 2 yearas and get it for $12K...
This is not a cheap FF lancer, despite the name and similar body. The car will hold its value very well.
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I LOVE THAT CAR....Absolutely Impressive car!!! A race car out of the box...I like it almost as much as I like the 951
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Why call it "rice"?
Looks like a factory hot rod, no ridiculous wings, outrageous colors, DVD player etc.
Not the prettiest car on the road but looks like a fun driver.
Looks like a factory hot rod, no ridiculous wings, outrageous colors, DVD player etc.
Not the prettiest car on the road but looks like a fun driver.
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Originally posted by Z-man
It's an echonobox commuter car.....
It's an echonobox commuter car.....
Originally posted by tim944
I wonder how long that 2.0 liter holds up with 271 hp? I would hate to miss a shift!
I wonder how long that 2.0 liter holds up with 271 hp? I would hate to miss a shift!
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Two words on the engine: Factory Grenade.
Two words on the engine: Factory Grenade.
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The STi and Evo8 should do very well on the used car market. My WRX is on a 39 month lease and though Im only 15 months into it, Ive been checking used car values and done some amortizing and I expect anywhere from $1000-2000 in equity in the lease above and beyond the quoted residual value by the time I return it. Thats not counting any miles I short the leasing company either on my max mileage/yr. I may buy the car at residual and sell it back to the dealer on the spot. Ive done that a couple times on the contingency they rolled the equity into the selling price of the car I leased after that.
Ive driven both. Evo8 handles better. Feels more nimble. At times the power feels more "there". Sort of like a scalpel. STi has a much better interior, I think it looks better, and overall has more oomph when you just mash the gas. Not quite as polished in the corners. Suffers a bit of the WRXs "sloshiness". Overall Id prefer it as a daily driver though. More refined in the other 85% of driving when you are just trying to battle the elements and traffic and smog and a-holes. I prefer Subaru AWD to anybodys in any price range. I didnt have the same confidence in the Mitsu.
Id love either car though. You have to remind yourself though that these things aren't BMWs. The interiors and all the other stuff other than the engine is Toyota Corolla-ish and no better (or worse depending on viewpoint). If you can live with the basics and dont need burl walnut, leather seats, electronic telescoping steering wheels, and all that crap, they can be fun. I cant imagine tackling rain and snow anymore w/o AWD. Its like cutting butter with a warm knife.
Im slowly turning in favor of those 350Zs though. I keep seeing a few around and they look pretty good. From the rear especially. Just another competitor to throw in the mix. A little more upscale perhaps.
Id like to see a Lexus AWD car. Perhaps the IS300 with 300bhp. They could use the engine out of the GS430.
Ive driven both. Evo8 handles better. Feels more nimble. At times the power feels more "there". Sort of like a scalpel. STi has a much better interior, I think it looks better, and overall has more oomph when you just mash the gas. Not quite as polished in the corners. Suffers a bit of the WRXs "sloshiness". Overall Id prefer it as a daily driver though. More refined in the other 85% of driving when you are just trying to battle the elements and traffic and smog and a-holes. I prefer Subaru AWD to anybodys in any price range. I didnt have the same confidence in the Mitsu.
Id love either car though. You have to remind yourself though that these things aren't BMWs. The interiors and all the other stuff other than the engine is Toyota Corolla-ish and no better (or worse depending on viewpoint). If you can live with the basics and dont need burl walnut, leather seats, electronic telescoping steering wheels, and all that crap, they can be fun. I cant imagine tackling rain and snow anymore w/o AWD. Its like cutting butter with a warm knife.
Im slowly turning in favor of those 350Zs though. I keep seeing a few around and they look pretty good. From the rear especially. Just another competitor to throw in the mix. A little more upscale perhaps.
Id like to see a Lexus AWD car. Perhaps the IS300 with 300bhp. They could use the engine out of the GS430.
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Originally posted by Danno
And I bet the thermostat circlip (if there is one) would be a whole lot easier to remove, eh??? heh, heh...
And I bet the thermostat circlip (if there is one) would be a whole lot easier to remove, eh??? heh, heh...
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I still haven't come across another car with that goofy clip.
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Originally posted by Jonas Goldsmith
I would rather get the STi myself....
I would rather get the STi myself....
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Surely you guys (I guess age matters) have seen the little 'Le Car' that was imported in the early 80's by the French manufacturer Renault.
It's the base for the Renault 5 turbo just like the one driven by Barbara Carrera (hmmm coincidence..?
) in the Bond movie.
Here's a link to the 5 turbo, Perry there's a red one there just for you.....
...... http://space.virgilio.it/andrea_passerini@tin.it/
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It's the base for the Renault 5 turbo just like the one driven by Barbara Carrera (hmmm coincidence..?
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Here's a link to the 5 turbo, Perry there's a red one there just for you.....
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