project: Supercharged 944
#1
Racer
Thread Starter
project: Supercharged 944
I know, I know, here we go again right? Another attempt at supercharging an N/A 944. "Buy a Turbo" some will say. "Drop in a V8" others will shout.
No.
I have owned my car for 3 years, previous to that my brother owned it for 9. I'm not getting rid of it. I have been working on it constantly and have made it into a fantastic track car. It's light, corners like hell, and puts a smile on my face everytime I drive it.
But it can always be better, right?
I bought the Rogue Tuning N/A-Tune. I love it. Shortly after purchase I had heard you can use it with a supercharger up to 225 hp. I surely don't need more than that. 30-40 hp is all I need. here we go.
Fast forward a few months and I track down an Eaton M90 Blower. Joshua from Rogue suggests a set of 951 injectors. I buy some, new. I also picked up an MSD HVC 2 ignition coil and an AEM UEGO wideband O2 as well as an exhaust header.
This should be fun.
Let's make some room in the engine bay:
That will do.
Lets see if this blower thingy will fit?
Yep, it fits.
I almost feel like this blower is replacing the other 4 pistons and cylinder head from the 928's 5.0 V8.
It's only day one, but i'm feeling good.
"Buy an LS1" they shouted. Pffft. Who needs "they".
Stay tuned...
No.
I have owned my car for 3 years, previous to that my brother owned it for 9. I'm not getting rid of it. I have been working on it constantly and have made it into a fantastic track car. It's light, corners like hell, and puts a smile on my face everytime I drive it.
But it can always be better, right?
I bought the Rogue Tuning N/A-Tune. I love it. Shortly after purchase I had heard you can use it with a supercharger up to 225 hp. I surely don't need more than that. 30-40 hp is all I need. here we go.
Fast forward a few months and I track down an Eaton M90 Blower. Joshua from Rogue suggests a set of 951 injectors. I buy some, new. I also picked up an MSD HVC 2 ignition coil and an AEM UEGO wideband O2 as well as an exhaust header.
This should be fun.
Let's make some room in the engine bay:
That will do.
Lets see if this blower thingy will fit?
Yep, it fits.
I almost feel like this blower is replacing the other 4 pistons and cylinder head from the 928's 5.0 V8.
It's only day one, but i'm feeling good.
"Buy an LS1" they shouted. Pffft. Who needs "they".
Stay tuned...
#4
OK, I'm rooting for you. I s/c'd (M90) my Mazda KL engine 10 yrs ago. Used the TecGT to run the engine. I'd bite on a roots type for my 968, not as big a fan of the turbo or non-roots type s/c. My KL felt like a big v8 with instant 9psi and roughly 275 ft-lb/300+ hp at the wheels out of a 2.65l. Any encouragement I could give you let me know. I ultimately designed the system when the kit I bought (only one available at the time) turned out to not be very well designed/executed.
#6
Rennlist Member
I have been hypocritically telling lots of 944 friends to NOT supercharge their 944, and instead buy a 951 motor and swap it in over a weekend... It was a decision I should have made the first time and should have made the second time, but here I am again hoping to save my faith in the supercharged 944 idea, with my own supercharged 944 project about to undertake "round 2" in the battle against not killing a perfectly good motor.
Anyway, good luck with it. If there's anything I can do to help just holler. And I hope that bracket you made for the blower is just to mock up alignment... That blower will rip itself away from the motor if not securely mounted with a mega beefy bracket!
Anyway, good luck with it. If there's anything I can do to help just holler. And I hope that bracket you made for the blower is just to mock up alignment... That blower will rip itself away from the motor if not securely mounted with a mega beefy bracket!
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#8
Racer
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OD - Yep, talkin' 'bout you. :-)
MB968 - Thanks and I like the sounds of a big V8 feel.
Arominus - No swap for me. Motor is strong, besides I want me some blower whine.
Drift - That bracket is just tacked together. I will be beefing it up big time. Good luck on your project too.
MB968 - Thanks and I like the sounds of a big V8 feel.
Arominus - No swap for me. Motor is strong, besides I want me some blower whine.
Drift - That bracket is just tacked together. I will be beefing it up big time. Good luck on your project too.
#9
Three Wheelin'
The hardest thing I found was actually just getting everything to fit in the engine bay - Rotrex, Oil Cooler, Oil Reservoir, Intercooler plumbing, intake plumbing, etc. That Eaton looks a little close to the body - make sure you have enough clearance. I presume you will get a custom tune done? It took me a long time to get the tune right on mine.
Good luck.
Good luck.
#10
Rennlist Member
Keeping my eye on this. I was looking to do the same, but after being thoroughly educated by RL folk, I put it on the back burner.
I suppose you already have the tune (which is expensive), but you'll need to upgrade the clutch apparently to deal with the extra torque. Not a trivial upgrade....
I suppose you already have the tune (which is expensive), but you'll need to upgrade the clutch apparently to deal with the extra torque. Not a trivial upgrade....
#12
Racer
Thread Starter
A question for you supercharger guys, is there an issue with compressor surge like a turbo. I know there are bypass valves, but that seems to be more for an economy thing. This being a track car, that doesn't interest me all that much. Do I use some type of blow off valve though? I've heard turbo BOV don't work, am I missing something?
As for a tune, I am relying on Joshua at Rogue to give me a base tune and then using a wideband, the Rogue logger setup and some dyno time to really fine tune it.
As for a tune, I am relying on Joshua at Rogue to give me a base tune and then using a wideband, the Rogue logger setup and some dyno time to really fine tune it.
#13
Three Wheelin'
You need a recirc valve so you don't just slam the throttle shut downstream of the supercharger. If you don't have his you will set up a pressure wave between the supercharger impellar and closed throttle- not good for the supercharger.
#14
Racer
Thread Starter
Ok, i think the stock Ford S/C setup had one. I think I can modify for use with my setup. IIRC, there is a small diaphragm that operates a smaller throttle plate that is vacuum operated. Are there other options? What about some kind of atmospheric blow off valve?
#15
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