OT early 90s camaros
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Man, I love this board. YOu pretty much flamsomeone out and they are still reasonable and okay with it.
Ribs - I re-read what I wrote in response to your minor flame job about F boides and realized I just fanned the flames by getting a little huffy - sorry! "Old-Timer's Disease".
I have to agree that Camaros, at least the 3rd Gen and earlier weren't goig to win any awards in my book for interior fit and finish. As for the old American front engine, live axle platforms - yes they're dino's relative to what's coming out of Germany these days...but the bottomline is they work as many have attested to here. And for durability a live axle can be made absolutely bullet proof. Anyway, admire your car very much. Hell, it's one of my screen savers shots and I like your taste in women on your own web page.
P.S. My son had a pristine '88 IROC two years ago (got stolen after 6 weeks!) and now has a very nice but pretty tame '92 RS with a 305. Natch, the trans in the 305 crapped out early whereas the 700R4 trans mated to the 5.7 in the '88 was tough as hell. Oh well, I think Chevy went lighter duty on the 305 assuming less wear and tear. But not true. Drivers of Camaros have their feet in them constantly regardless of what's under the hood.
Ribs - I re-read what I wrote in response to your minor flame job about F boides and realized I just fanned the flames by getting a little huffy - sorry! "Old-Timer's Disease".
I have to agree that Camaros, at least the 3rd Gen and earlier weren't goig to win any awards in my book for interior fit and finish. As for the old American front engine, live axle platforms - yes they're dino's relative to what's coming out of Germany these days...but the bottomline is they work as many have attested to here. And for durability a live axle can be made absolutely bullet proof. Anyway, admire your car very much. Hell, it's one of my screen savers shots and I like your taste in women on your own web page.
P.S. My son had a pristine '88 IROC two years ago (got stolen after 6 weeks!) and now has a very nice but pretty tame '92 RS with a 305. Natch, the trans in the 305 crapped out early whereas the 700R4 trans mated to the 5.7 in the '88 was tough as hell. Oh well, I think Chevy went lighter duty on the 305 assuming less wear and tear. But not true. Drivers of Camaros have their feet in them constantly regardless of what's under the hood.
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This camaro that supposedly has the police package is an auto. The guy thats selling it doesn;t know what the police package is so it is very possible that this car might not have it. Anyway to double check? also it has no A/C, or power windows. I am worried about heat, will there be defrost and heat for the winter?did that come with all of them or is there a chance there wont be heat?
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ok so what would a 92 camaro Z28 auto, that wieghs 3470 or something close to that do to 60? and what would it do in the 1/4 mile? i know it seems like i'm asking this for the 8th time but no one has answered it yet. It has a 305/5.7.
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My friend at school has a 95' camaro z28 auto with headers, intake and exhaust. He does 0-60 in I think about 5.5 seconds with alright launch technique..since then he's perfected it. So prolly like 5.4 seconds 0-60.
That thing weighs 3500lbs + his subs, him and gas.
That thing weighs 3500lbs + his subs, him and gas.
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For another comparison...my 951S with autothority stage 2 was right next to him through 1st and 2nd gear..rolling start. 3rd is to be continued cause I mis-shifted..
However...his 60-90 time is 6 seconds, my 60-100 time is 6.1 seconds. Therefor...in 3rd I woulda pulled away like it was my job.
Oh, and his car G-teched with 280RWH when a weight of 3700lbs was plugged in (he weighs 150, gas weighs 100lbs, subs figure about 50lbs or something like that..). Stock I think was 280hp to the flywheel....dunno if headers, intake and exhaust would do all that...
However...his 60-90 time is 6 seconds, my 60-100 time is 6.1 seconds. Therefor...in 3rd I woulda pulled away like it was my job.
Oh, and his car G-teched with 280RWH when a weight of 3700lbs was plugged in (he weighs 150, gas weighs 100lbs, subs figure about 50lbs or something like that..). Stock I think was 280hp to the flywheel....dunno if headers, intake and exhaust would do all that...
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well 5.4 is what a new WRX does. I am seriously doubting that a 5000 dollar car can match that, especially one that wieghs 3500. These early 90s go for 5000 with like 30k-50k on them, that is CHEAP. Cheaper than a 944 na yet they do a full 2.5 seconds faster to 60? I dont expect it to be as slow as my 944 but i am thinking more like the times someone posted for the thunderbirds or whatever closer to mid to low 7s.
But i really dont know so.....whatever. thanks for the info
But i really dont know so.....whatever. thanks for the info
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His driveline loss is probably 70hp.. and I am pretty sure he could gain 70hp from headers, exhaust, and the intake.
I raced an WS6 just before I put my MAF and Regulator in. I was running 18psi with the Huntley Cheater and Stage 2 chips, his is stock. He had me 1st and 2nd gear, I pulled him back in during 3rd gear up to about 120-130 I was pulling, but 5th gear to 160 is about the same. I beat him to 160 by a car length, but was still slowly pulling, and was very very near 6400rpm.
You decide... and for the corners. We played in some of the nice twisty back roads of Southeast Ohio. About 30 miles of them .
It was no contest. I walked away from him. The car could not stick, a lot of slide and body roll. I got out of shape 2 times from too much power out of the corners in 2nd, he was much worse. His is stock with RE730's, mune with the Konis, all new bushings, 17"s, and RE730's.
I raced an WS6 just before I put my MAF and Regulator in. I was running 18psi with the Huntley Cheater and Stage 2 chips, his is stock. He had me 1st and 2nd gear, I pulled him back in during 3rd gear up to about 120-130 I was pulling, but 5th gear to 160 is about the same. I beat him to 160 by a car length, but was still slowly pulling, and was very very near 6400rpm.
You decide... and for the corners. We played in some of the nice twisty back roads of Southeast Ohio. About 30 miles of them .
It was no contest. I walked away from him. The car could not stick, a lot of slide and body roll. I got out of shape 2 times from too much power out of the corners in 2nd, he was much worse. His is stock with RE730's, mune with the Konis, all new bushings, 17"s, and RE730's.
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60-100 for a WS6 firebird with 310RWH is 6.3 seconds...my 60-100 was 6.1 seconds. I have autothority stage 2 in a 951S...14.5psi of boost...260-270 to the rear wheels...
Any new dyno runs with the road dyno, Perry? I remember before you had some...putting down mid 200's to the wheels I think...??
Any new dyno runs with the road dyno, Perry? I remember before you had some...putting down mid 200's to the wheels I think...??
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Yea.... I had 243hp, 265 tq at the wheels before the MAF and regulator. I made some dyno runs this weekend with my friends GTI 1.8T as well. His did not work.
Anyway, I need a lot more tuning. The car feels a hell of a lot faster, and will smoke the tires (if they are cold) from a 2nd gear hit at 3500rpm. I had 255hp, and 288tq. All 4 runs I did were within 3hp and 5tq. I am still running very rich, but getting better by the day.
I will do another round this weekend at some point.. or perhaps after work today if it is not raining. I have more adjustmenmts to make to the fuel pressures.
Anyway, I need a lot more tuning. The car feels a hell of a lot faster, and will smoke the tires (if they are cold) from a 2nd gear hit at 3500rpm. I had 255hp, and 288tq. All 4 runs I did were within 3hp and 5tq. I am still running very rich, but getting better by the day.
I will do another round this weekend at some point.. or perhaps after work today if it is not raining. I have more adjustmenmts to make to the fuel pressures.