Burn-out?
#20
That 911 is no Photo shop. It used to belong to Eddy Bello and is/was one of the fastest street Porsche in the world.
"Eddie Bello has with this white, 1993 993-model 911 with 3.6 liters of 1994 Turbo motor. Just how quick is it? The fastest timed run has been rather extraordinary 9.1788 -sec, e.t., with a trap speed of 161.02 mph. And, get this, it was done while running on Toyo's RA-1 street tires."
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0B...03/print.jhtml
"Eddie Bello has with this white, 1993 993-model 911 with 3.6 liters of 1994 Turbo motor. Just how quick is it? The fastest timed run has been rather extraordinary 9.1788 -sec, e.t., with a trap speed of 161.02 mph. And, get this, it was done while running on Toyo's RA-1 street tires."
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m0B...03/print.jhtml
#21
No redline and dropping clutch for me. When the RE730's were cold, all it took was a good hit of the trottle above 3 grand to light them off. 1st or 2nd gear.. it didn't matter. I did that twice and remembered how much them damn RE730's cost! No more burnouts for me, unless I am heating them up for launch.
That was until it caught fire. Talk about uncool smoke!!!
I would assume John or Tim's 951's could create a lot of tire smoke with little effort.
Brake torque is not cool. If you wanna do a burnout, get rolling, slip the clutch a little and nab the gas in 1st gear. Carry it until redline and shift, or get out of it. Your point will be made and you shouldn't break anything.
That was until it caught fire. Talk about uncool smoke!!!
I would assume John or Tim's 951's could create a lot of tire smoke with little effort.
Brake torque is not cool. If you wanna do a burnout, get rolling, slip the clutch a little and nab the gas in 1st gear. Carry it until redline and shift, or get out of it. Your point will be made and you shouldn't break anything.
#22
the Bello car falls into that category of drag racing schoolbusses (except it's faster).
"This is it for this car; there is only so much you can do; the car is
not designed for drag racing!"
-from the article.
"This is it for this car; there is only so much you can do; the car is
not designed for drag racing!"
-from the article.
#23
Deni, that is taken totaly out of context. That is what his friend were telling him when he was running 10.0 @ 154 mph. Now he is running 9.1s.
Is this they guy who went to prision for running a car theft ring?
Is this they guy who went to prision for running a car theft ring?
#26
Tabor, he ended up not getting charged. Something to do with him not knowing what is goin on. He is currently working on a, I believe, a 996 but he is going all out this time and moving up to the next level. He is hoping for getting in the 6's.
Booster guessed it right! Me and a buddy of mine were bored one sunday afternoon and did a little photoshoot with my car and his jeep. I used jackstands and a fog machine.
Booster guessed it right! Me and a buddy of mine were bored one sunday afternoon and did a little photoshoot with my car and his jeep. I used jackstands and a fog machine.
#27
I wasn't even trying to burn out when I was diagnosed with a common affliction known as:ninefourfourblownrubberclutchitous. The question shouldn't be how to burn "rubber", but how not to. But anyway,
I own two cars:
~2900lb P-944 with ~240hp
~1700lb VW kit with ~240hp
My experience with the VW has the answer. Low weight, low gearing, and some very skinny tires. I can hardly keep traction in first gear when I let out the clutch unless it's practically at idle. Burnt tires, polished clutches and a shrapnel box tranny with more loose teeth than a broke boxer at a tooth fairy convention. Loads of fun
I own two cars:
~2900lb P-944 with ~240hp
~1700lb VW kit with ~240hp
My experience with the VW has the answer. Low weight, low gearing, and some very skinny tires. I can hardly keep traction in first gear when I let out the clutch unless it's practically at idle. Burnt tires, polished clutches and a shrapnel box tranny with more loose teeth than a broke boxer at a tooth fairy convention. Loads of fun
#28
Perry, that just makes me sick.
You turbo guys always beating up on us NA guys. Just rub it in. "I can just touch the gas and watch the tires turn over" blah blah blah.
I can't stand it. No more.
Of course, the day that I join the turbo club it'll all be ok.
You turbo guys always beating up on us NA guys. Just rub it in. "I can just touch the gas and watch the tires turn over" blah blah blah.
I can't stand it. No more.
Of course, the day that I join the turbo club it'll all be ok.
#29
I thought Eddie Bello had dropped into the high 8's recently(?). I'm not sure about that though... I have read many articles about his 911 dragster and how he went much further than most people ever expected...
I think some Porsches are slightly underated when it comes to drag racing. I know they're not neccessarily the best starting point, AND, they are considered a little on the expensive side to drag race, BUT, a 911 is set-up pretty well for drag racing. There's all kinds of gearing and performance parts available or them, they're rear engine and RWD, or AWD, although most serious draggers want RWD. Like that guy David Bushcur who took an Eagle Talon AWD and made it RWD- he was the first to get a Diamond Star into the 10's, etc, etc, and has gone well into the 8's...
As for doing burn outs, I'm not a big fan, and sure it does more damage, especially when using the brake too, but I wouldn't think that spinning the tires would be THAT bad on the tranny would it? I mean, I know it's not GOOD for it, but revving it up a little and popping the clutch seems like it would do more damage to the clutch and tires, but not really the trany(?). Am I wrong here? I know that the better the traction, the harder it is on EVERYTHING, so doing burn outs w/slicks would much more detrimental, as opposed to doing it in the rain. I would think that once the clutch has started to grab, that the tranny would be locked in place, and the stress would be pretty even(???).
Also, for those of you who have done some stop light dragging in their 951's WITH LSD's, how much wheel spin is best for the best possible times? I've played around just a little w/mine, and it seems that spinning the tires pretty heavily is okay, as by the time the spinning is under control, it's rocketing towards 2nd gear and I'm on my way. If I don't spin them much, the car seems to bog down too much. I ask b/c I've seen tests where they say that some cars need LOT's of wheel spin. I've got a SCC test where a modded Audi A4 and a modded Talon (I believe it was a Talon-?) both ran a touch quicker from 0-60 in the rain than in the dry b/c the tires couldn't spin enough on the dry. It was only about 1/100 second difference, but still. Also, the old 959's were supposed to be launched by locking the AWD differential to it's highest locked position (the off-road position), in first gear (labeled "G"- German word- I'd have to check the article), redline it, and pop the clutch... 0-60 in ~3.6 seconds and the 1/4 in a hair under 12.0... Anyone know how to launch a 951`w/LSD most effectively?
Thanks
I think some Porsches are slightly underated when it comes to drag racing. I know they're not neccessarily the best starting point, AND, they are considered a little on the expensive side to drag race, BUT, a 911 is set-up pretty well for drag racing. There's all kinds of gearing and performance parts available or them, they're rear engine and RWD, or AWD, although most serious draggers want RWD. Like that guy David Bushcur who took an Eagle Talon AWD and made it RWD- he was the first to get a Diamond Star into the 10's, etc, etc, and has gone well into the 8's...
As for doing burn outs, I'm not a big fan, and sure it does more damage, especially when using the brake too, but I wouldn't think that spinning the tires would be THAT bad on the tranny would it? I mean, I know it's not GOOD for it, but revving it up a little and popping the clutch seems like it would do more damage to the clutch and tires, but not really the trany(?). Am I wrong here? I know that the better the traction, the harder it is on EVERYTHING, so doing burn outs w/slicks would much more detrimental, as opposed to doing it in the rain. I would think that once the clutch has started to grab, that the tranny would be locked in place, and the stress would be pretty even(???).
Also, for those of you who have done some stop light dragging in their 951's WITH LSD's, how much wheel spin is best for the best possible times? I've played around just a little w/mine, and it seems that spinning the tires pretty heavily is okay, as by the time the spinning is under control, it's rocketing towards 2nd gear and I'm on my way. If I don't spin them much, the car seems to bog down too much. I ask b/c I've seen tests where they say that some cars need LOT's of wheel spin. I've got a SCC test where a modded Audi A4 and a modded Talon (I believe it was a Talon-?) both ran a touch quicker from 0-60 in the rain than in the dry b/c the tires couldn't spin enough on the dry. It was only about 1/100 second difference, but still. Also, the old 959's were supposed to be launched by locking the AWD differential to it's highest locked position (the off-road position), in first gear (labeled "G"- German word- I'd have to check the article), redline it, and pop the clutch... 0-60 in ~3.6 seconds and the 1/4 in a hair under 12.0... Anyone know how to launch a 951`w/LSD most effectively?
Thanks
#30
Robby, spinning the tyres is not that bad. The bad part comes if you apply the brakes while spinning the tyres. Your brakes can apply far more force to the transmission than the road surface can. So, SNAP!