SEARS-Can you believe this?
02-27-2002, 10:18 AM
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You guys better be careful what you write about Sears cuz you might get sued by Sears for libel.
Why dont you put the claim through insurance and when they ask you when and where it happened tell them the truth. let your insurance go after Sears. thats what insurance is for
Why dont you put the claim through insurance and when they ask you when and where it happened tell them the truth. let your insurance go after Sears. thats what insurance is for
02-27-2002, 10:55 AM
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"You guys better be careful what you write about Sears cuz you might get sued by Sears for libel."
BWAHAHAHAH! My comment to Sears on this would be simply, "Bring it on, *****..." <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> (dang, wrong finger again!)
What an utterly delightful thought... Dam', that'd be fun! <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
Jim, who can't imagine any statement about Sears that'd actually be bad enough to be libelous...
BWAHAHAHAH! My comment to Sears on this would be simply, "Bring it on, *****..." <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> (dang, wrong finger again!)
What an utterly delightful thought... Dam', that'd be fun! <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
Jim, who can't imagine any statement about Sears that'd actually be bad enough to be libelous...
02-27-2002, 12:47 PM
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LIBEL??
Against Sears????
Best laugh I have had all day!!!
The truth is not libel.
Damage to one's car while that car is in the care of another is serious. What if the neglect of the service provider resulted in death? (wheel falls off, newly installed brakes fail)
I know many people who will NEVER set foot in a Sears, even just to "pass through". And Sears wonders why it has lost its position as a leading retailer...
Bob S.
Against Sears????
Best laugh I have had all day!!!
The truth is not libel.
Damage to one's car while that car is in the care of another is serious. What if the neglect of the service provider resulted in death? (wheel falls off, newly installed brakes fail)
I know many people who will NEVER set foot in a Sears, even just to "pass through". And Sears wonders why it has lost its position as a leading retailer...
Bob S.
02-27-2002, 06:32 PM
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Turn it into your insurance company and explain to them how you beleive it happened. Give them a written statement of the events. They should repair your windsheild right away and then look to assess the blame. You may be suprized at what a insurance company will do to re-assign liability. Let their lawyers and employees fight with sears.
02-27-2002, 09:03 PM
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I've actually messed someone elses car up at work before and am ashamed of it, but you live and learn. The difference with me is I didn't try to lie and cover it up. My company payed for the damages. Thats what a good company would do. Everyone makes mistakes, its the better companies that fix the problems. Heck, the place I work fixed things that we were sure didn't happen at our store just because we couldn't prove that we didn't. Make the customers happy.
02-27-2002, 09:58 PM
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FWIW...
I won't ever go to a SEARS Auto Center either. The only thing they know how to do is take wheels off, and they can't even do THAT without scratching them. I have another long story, but wouldn't want to be sued for libel (BS!!). In actuality, it's the same old crap from them you all have said and I don't feel like typing it out.
Just run the other way when you see "SEARS Auto Center" on someone's clothing.
-Matt
I won't ever go to a SEARS Auto Center either. The only thing they know how to do is take wheels off, and they can't even do THAT without scratching them. I have another long story, but wouldn't want to be sued for libel (BS!!). In actuality, it's the same old crap from them you all have said and I don't feel like typing it out.
Just run the other way when you see "SEARS Auto Center" on someone's clothing.
-Matt
02-27-2002, 10:22 PM
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(Rant warning; long & boring!) Ya know, this is sooo freakin' sad. I was _raised_ out of the Sears & Roebuck catalog ('50 & '60's, when mail order from the 'Big Book' was Sears' main thing; both parents worked, no time for shopping, so they mail ordered a _lot_ of stuff).
Now, Sears has the reputation of a skunk with so many people.. look at this group; we should be their target demographic. We're not rich (no new 911's here), but we have disposable income (too much of it disposed on cars, but I digess...
). Most of us buy tools; all of us buy clothes; some of us buy household stuff like appliances & furniture.
Sears ought to love us, and make us love them. Instead, their crappy service & quality have turned all these posters off. BTW, my own problems with them go back to the late '70's...that seems to be when the rot set in.
My own guess is that they started picking managers more for accounting skills than for an understanding of the retail process or the merchandise. MBA's & bottom lines became more important than knowing something about what was sold, and how to make the customer smile.
(Somebody ought to forward this whole thread to the CEO of Sears.)
....but what I know about economics & business could be writ large on a small pinhead...
Jim, ...with room left over for the whole 944 service manual set...(neatly back on topc... <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> )
Now, Sears has the reputation of a skunk with so many people.. look at this group; we should be their target demographic. We're not rich (no new 911's here), but we have disposable income (too much of it disposed on cars, but I digess...
). Most of us buy tools; all of us buy clothes; some of us buy household stuff like appliances & furniture. Sears ought to love us, and make us love them. Instead, their crappy service & quality have turned all these posters off. BTW, my own problems with them go back to the late '70's...that seems to be when the rot set in.
My own guess is that they started picking managers more for accounting skills than for an understanding of the retail process or the merchandise. MBA's & bottom lines became more important than knowing something about what was sold, and how to make the customer smile.
(Somebody ought to forward this whole thread to the CEO of Sears.)
....but what I know about economics & business could be writ large on a small pinhead...
Jim, ...with room left over for the whole 944 service manual set...(neatly back on topc... <img src="graemlins/bigok.gif" border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" /> )
02-28-2002, 12:36 AM
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What's with people bringing up libel left and right? Honestly, you can say nearly anything you damn well want about a company. I think we still might have some first amendment rights. As long as you don't infringe upon the rights of the company or its employees you are within your constitutional rights. Libel for sharing experiences with a company on a message board? Is this Communist Russia or something?!?!?! Enough with the libel crap. We are consumers for godsakes! It is our duty to scrutinize what we pay for. Businesses earn our money, its not given to them. I say Caveat Venditor, let the seller beware.
BTW: Although I really don't shop at the full department store I have actually had very positive experiences with Sears Hardware. The tools aren't second to none, but they are of solid quality, are reasonably in price and are replaced with no questions asked. But I do have some interesting K-Mart wheel balancing stories from my dad...(Let's just say they couldn't get it right after 5 times)
BTW: Although I really don't shop at the full department store I have actually had very positive experiences with Sears Hardware. The tools aren't second to none, but they are of solid quality, are reasonably in price and are replaced with no questions asked. But I do have some interesting K-Mart wheel balancing stories from my dad...(Let's just say they couldn't get it right after 5 times)
02-28-2002, 02:06 AM
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--I don't know if this has been suggested, i didn't read any replies I was to tired--
I say you do this.
Pick up a pocket recorder at radioshack. Then go to the mechanics and get them to readily speak about the length of the crack, and it's appearence the day they saw it. Make up some bull****, like you're getting a glass repair kit, and for the sake of applying the chemical, you need to concentrate it at the origin of the crack, therefore needing a second opinion on how long it was the day they saw it. If you say those words, it will confuse them to the point they'll just do it so you'll leave and let their brain activity go back to dormant. After you get it clear on tape, and maybe on paper, go to the next guy up and tell him that your window wouldn't have gotten a crack that big in one day, that it grew the day after, and say the mechanic even agrees that the size was smaller. When he brings in the mechanic and the mechanic lies simply pull out the recorder and play it, then say you'll see them in court(do a kinda giddy ******* look), and walk out pimp as hell! What you do from there is up to you give them an ultimatum or something... Or before you play the tape back ask the two fella's if they've ever thought his wife would look good in a potato sac, and when they get mad and start to say 'huh?' play the tape back and when it's finished, say something like 'that's all you're gonna be able to afford to give her after I put your *** out of a job for rippnig me off!, I'll see YOU in court!'. I'm really... um... high right now, so if this **** makes NO sense, disregard it...
I say you do this.
Pick up a pocket recorder at radioshack. Then go to the mechanics and get them to readily speak about the length of the crack, and it's appearence the day they saw it. Make up some bull****, like you're getting a glass repair kit, and for the sake of applying the chemical, you need to concentrate it at the origin of the crack, therefore needing a second opinion on how long it was the day they saw it. If you say those words, it will confuse them to the point they'll just do it so you'll leave and let their brain activity go back to dormant. After you get it clear on tape, and maybe on paper, go to the next guy up and tell him that your window wouldn't have gotten a crack that big in one day, that it grew the day after, and say the mechanic even agrees that the size was smaller. When he brings in the mechanic and the mechanic lies simply pull out the recorder and play it, then say you'll see them in court(do a kinda giddy ******* look), and walk out pimp as hell! What you do from there is up to you give them an ultimatum or something... Or before you play the tape back ask the two fella's if they've ever thought his wife would look good in a potato sac, and when they get mad and start to say 'huh?' play the tape back and when it's finished, say something like 'that's all you're gonna be able to afford to give her after I put your *** out of a job for rippnig me off!, I'll see YOU in court!'. I'm really... um... high right now, so if this **** makes NO sense, disregard it...
02-28-2002, 07:04 AM
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I also dislike Sears, I have had many bad experiences there. They should wake up and smell the coffee, look what happened to Montgomery Ward-- and for many of the same reasons.
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02-28-2002, 02:01 PM
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Craig - exhale and clean the water out of the bong (but don't for get to scrape it!!)
I don't think recording someone's voice without them knowing is legal. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure it isn't.
....but keep puffin', eventually you will aquire the amotivational aspect of life and you can save money on the 944, cause you will never leave the house.
Do you find you have no patience anymore?? Do you find your main goal in life is "re-stocking" and getting home to roll up?? Do you find that it's taking more and more weebis to keep you high??
I went thru all of this is my youth, and some of my friends (at age 32) are still doing it. Trust me, there is nothing less attractive than a 30+ year old guy, who still lives at home with the folks and does nothing but get high everyday.
Just some advice - enjoy the puffs now, your still young - but as the years go by, try and cut back (ya, ya - I know...."You can stop anytime" - but Weebis IS addictive, at least the the whole getting high aspect is).
Just some advice from someone who knows about these things.
I don't think recording someone's voice without them knowing is legal. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure it isn't.
....but keep puffin', eventually you will aquire the amotivational aspect of life and you can save money on the 944, cause you will never leave the house.
Do you find you have no patience anymore?? Do you find your main goal in life is "re-stocking" and getting home to roll up?? Do you find that it's taking more and more weebis to keep you high??
I went thru all of this is my youth, and some of my friends (at age 32) are still doing it. Trust me, there is nothing less attractive than a 30+ year old guy, who still lives at home with the folks and does nothing but get high everyday.
Just some advice - enjoy the puffs now, your still young - but as the years go by, try and cut back (ya, ya - I know...."You can stop anytime" - but Weebis IS addictive, at least the the whole getting high aspect is).
Just some advice from someone who knows about these things.
02-28-2002, 02:33 PM
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Prince, well said.
Jim, been there, did that, quit years ago... savin' it for retirement <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
Jim, been there, did that, quit years ago... savin' it for retirement <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
02-28-2002, 03:07 PM
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Recording a conversation with someone with a tape recorder on your person is most likely completely legal in all jurisdictions. Just think of all the lawsuits there would be against companies for having security videos and audio monitoring. And these little hidden cameras people are putting in to spy on the babysitter.
Telephone recordings are a different matter and that depends on state laws. Some states it is legal if at least one party (you) are aware the recording is being made and agree. Other states require all the parties to consent or at least have a beep that goes off every 10 seconds or so. Then of course you can get a court order and tap without anyone's consent.
Telephone recordings are a different matter and that depends on state laws. Some states it is legal if at least one party (you) are aware the recording is being made and agree. Other states require all the parties to consent or at least have a beep that goes off every 10 seconds or so. Then of course you can get a court order and tap without anyone's consent.
02-28-2002, 04:54 PM
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I don't think recording someone's voice without them knowing is legal.
I agree with IceShark; in most cases, it's perfectly OK. The issue really is whether you can use that tape in court or not. There's a heavy burden on law-enforcement to follow proper procedures in obtaining evidence in criminal cases. However, in a civil case between private parties, it's probably fair game.
Even if it's not admissable in court, you can still use the tape as a bargaining chip.
I agree with IceShark; in most cases, it's perfectly OK. The issue really is whether you can use that tape in court or not. There's a heavy burden on law-enforcement to follow proper procedures in obtaining evidence in criminal cases. However, in a civil case between private parties, it's probably fair game.
Even if it's not admissable in court, you can still use the tape as a bargaining chip.