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Will they fit? Aggresive wheels

Old 03-23-2013, 02:01 PM
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I am looking at a set of old school Simmons wheels for my 84 944. they were on a Porsche 930.

The specs are: Fr. 16" x 9" 23 offset
Rr. 16" x 11" 10 offset

I'd like to use 245/45/16 rears and 225/50/16 fronts. Yes I understand they aren't optimal tire sizes, but that's what is available.

I'm going to run 15" x 7" CC's on the track with 225/50/15 so the Simmons would be my street wheels.

My question is, will the wheels fit? I have done the math and it looks like they will work, but I want to know if anybody has tried this aggressive of a setup. I do have front coilovers, so I have some extra room there. The rear is VERY stiff so not much movement, which helps as well.

Thoughts?
Old 03-23-2013, 09:00 PM
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a 245 on an 11" rim
Old 03-23-2013, 09:01 PM
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Pretty damn stretched but those should work out just fine...
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I don't think 11" wheel fit on the back of the 944. Some have done, but it's really tight.

Personally I would not run those wheels if those are the only tires you can find. The 245s should go on the 9" wheels. Check tire manufacturer for suggested wheel width per tire.

Take care!
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I came to my senses and I agree, I'm not comfortable running 245's on those wheels. It's too bad because the rims are CRAZY light. I'm almost thinking they are magnesium due to how light they were. Maybe 12 lbs a wheel for the 16 x 11's. the 16 x 9 fronts were featherlight.

Sometimes I really hate my early offset car.
Old 03-24-2013, 10:39 PM
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DO IT!!!!

I'm working on test fitting a set of 17x11 rear Forgelines on my 86 951 with a super low offset (haven't calculated what it is yet). Planning on putting a 245 tire on there. It will be stretched but I think it's all I will be able to fit with the offset given.

I'll post a pic shortly of the test-fit with no tire. Its pretty insane.
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Originally Posted by DarrenD
Sometimes I really hate my early offset car.
You have it backwards. There's no wheel a late offset car can fit that an early offset car can't!!!

You can fit any wheel with offset ~10+

Late cars can only fit offsets like ~40+
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With those tires they probably will fit. I ran zero offset 16x10 on the rear of my car for a little. 16x9et11 fronts fit, a 23 offset 16x9 with 225 might be tight.
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negative camber
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Originally Posted by Butters944
You have it backwards. There's no wheel a late offset car can fit that an early offset car can't!!!

You can fit any wheel with offset ~10+

Late cars can only fit offsets like ~40+
+1 butters is right. Early offset has more options not less, you are more restricted with late offset in your choice. Plus, with an early offset you can get a really nice deep dish look in the back if you go for ~et10's.
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Go for it. Massive tyre stretch, some negative camber and pulling the fenders a little if necessary. This might look stunning. I'm saving up for 11" wide wheels as well.
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test fitment pics on mine as promised...

17x11 Forgeline RS (offset TBD), on an 86 951, no spacers, fenders are already rolled.

Obviously, the tires will need to have some stretch in order to fit.



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DarrenD, if you're going to pass on the simmons wheels I'd appreciate it if you send me info on it (owner info, pics, link, etc) as I may be interested in it. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by drift a 944
test fitment pics on mine as promised...

17x11 Forgeline RS (offset TBD), on an 86 951, no spacers, fenders are already rolled.

Obviously, the tires will need to have some stretch in order to fit.
This is gonna look spot on. If you're lowering the rear slightly, you probably won't need any stretch at all. This looks already pretty good with this set up.
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drift a 944, thanks for that look. I know the wheels will look amazing but I am concerned with the tire stretch. Any chance your going to do it in the next couple of days?

I don't want to be popping beads.

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