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Old 02-11-2013, 05:23 PM
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Hey guys I was talking with my friend who has an 87 944 turbo and i wanted his suspension set up which is the turbo sport struts, which (correct me if i'm wrong please) are yellow Koni Adjustables. Would that suspension fit an early model car? or would i need to convert to new brakes and spindles as well?
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you need the spindles, calipers, rotors, hubs and a set of camber plates to bring the camber back to spec. There is a hack job to fit the turbo struts on the early non-turbo spindles but imo don't go there.
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Only the '88 Turbo S and '89+ Turbos had the single adjustable Konis.

You will need to modify the lower mounting holes in the strut and also modify your spindle so the mounting flange is thinner.
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so basically i would need a turbo front end to get all of this stuff to upgrade. And yes, my friend got the later model turbo suspension, and it fits his just fine. Where would i find good bolt on suspension upgrades from? I won't be able to do custom work to make things fit. Also, to get the performance, would it be worth it to convert to the front end suspension and brakes? I think it'd be at least $600-700 for everything, calipers struts and spindles just for the front end
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Just buy the single adjustable Koni inserts from Paragon and put them in your strut housings.
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Do what Van said and get the inserts for what you have, your better off that way and you'll have new struts instead of used up turbo ones that still need to be rebuilt. Its not worth the effort to convert it all over to the turbo stuff.
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well i've also seen some koni yellows for sale on summit racing. they're $190 a piece for the front and i think $140 each for the rear. That seems pretty good for new stuff. Would you guys do that?
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Originally Posted by MAGK944
...There is a hack job to fit the turbo struts on the early non-turbo spindles but imo don't go there. UNLESS YOUR NAME IS VAN AND YOU HAVE EXCEPTIONAL MACHINING SKILLS
There I fixed it!

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Do what Van said and get the inserts for what you have, your better off that way and you'll have new struts instead of used up turbo ones that still need to be rebuilt. Its not worth the effort to convert it all over to the turbo stuff.
+1, your strut inserts are easy to swap unlike the later struts and the koni inserts are cheap.
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ok awesome where would i get the koni inserts?
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me thinks you may need the cradle too, case they're different C-arms
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Originally Posted by Van
Just buy the single adjustable Koni inserts from Paragon and put them in your strut housings.
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Paragon+products+porsche


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...There is a hack job to fit the turbo struts on the early non-turbo spindles but imo don't go there. UNLESS YOUR NAME IS VAN AND YOU HAVE EXCEPTIONAL MACHINING SKILLS

There I fixed it!



+1, your strut inserts are easy to swap unlike the later struts and the koni inserts are cheap.
Haha. It's still a hack job... just a different caliber hack job.
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Originally Posted by MAGK944
and a set of camber plates to bring the camber back to spec.
is that for if you keep the early offset A Arms?
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Originally Posted by Van

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Paragon+products+porsche

Haha. It's still a hack job... just a different caliber hack job.
Not with early struts, the top screws off and you drop new inserts in. No cutting or hacking, it was also like that on my 924s.
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I am running 1988 turbo front spindles on my 1986 N/A. At max negative camber it is around 0*. I bought some camber plates to put in but havent gotten around to it yet. Its been about 5000 miles and everything has been fine. However, I still would not recommend it.
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Originally Posted by J1NX3D
is that for if you keep the early offset A Arms?
Yes, the angles are slightly different on the late spindles, camber plates allow you to bring them back for early arms.

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Not with early struts, the top screws off and you drop new inserts in. No cutting or hacking, it was also like that on my 924s.
We are discussing the hack at the bottom of the strut where it mounts to the spindle not the insert hack.


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