Mazda Rx-7 vs 944
#16
I owned a 86' FC and a 951 at the same time when I was stationed in Hawaii. (https://i.imgur.com/9eVfM.jpg)
As far as comparing the 2, I wouldn't mind owning another FC. It was nice to drive, even though it was manual steering, and had decent power. It was quite torque-y all the way up to 4th gear. However, 5th gear is quite tall so you you have a lack of power at highway speed. It handled well also. The car seemed well planted in corners yet you didn't feel every bump in the road. I had mixed feelings about the controls for the accessories, but i was fine with that. But damn did that car eat gas in the city. I constantly had interior parts cracking and breaking on me... but the car had low miles (62k i think) so it was worth the investment at the time. I kind of miss that car.
Side story: I sold it when I was getting out of the Navy to an E-2 NUB showing up to a boat. Guy claimed to have a supra back home pushing 5XXhp. I figured it was at least going to a good home so I let him have it. A couple of days later I saw it at the barracks with black rattle can paint on the hood and wheels... he didn't even bother to cover the rotors, runs everywhere, and obvious "lanes" of the difference in the spray angle and density of the paint. Some people...
Makes me want to jump on craigslist... which in fact I might.
As far as comparing the 2, I wouldn't mind owning another FC. It was nice to drive, even though it was manual steering, and had decent power. It was quite torque-y all the way up to 4th gear. However, 5th gear is quite tall so you you have a lack of power at highway speed. It handled well also. The car seemed well planted in corners yet you didn't feel every bump in the road. I had mixed feelings about the controls for the accessories, but i was fine with that. But damn did that car eat gas in the city. I constantly had interior parts cracking and breaking on me... but the car had low miles (62k i think) so it was worth the investment at the time. I kind of miss that car.
Side story: I sold it when I was getting out of the Navy to an E-2 NUB showing up to a boat. Guy claimed to have a supra back home pushing 5XXhp. I figured it was at least going to a good home so I let him have it. A couple of days later I saw it at the barracks with black rattle can paint on the hood and wheels... he didn't even bother to cover the rotors, runs everywhere, and obvious "lanes" of the difference in the spray angle and density of the paint. Some people...
Makes me want to jump on craigslist... which in fact I might.
#17
The FD started in 1992 and was made until 2002, and only came in turbo platform...
So the comparison would be to the 1989 turbo. When the FD came out it was rated 255hp, vs the 951's 250hp. So very close. However, in braking, reliability, fuel economy, emissions, and probably skid-pad (assuming equal tires), the 951 wins.
Regardless the FD was a complete generation newer than the 951, and if the 951 would have continued development all the way to 2002 like the FD, then the gap would have increased more.
Don't get me wrong I quite like the RX7, the simplicity of a rotary engine, and the FD looks amazing. But I wouldn't take one over a 951.
So the comparison would be to the 1989 turbo. When the FD came out it was rated 255hp, vs the 951's 250hp. So very close. However, in braking, reliability, fuel economy, emissions, and probably skid-pad (assuming equal tires), the 951 wins.
Regardless the FD was a complete generation newer than the 951, and if the 951 would have continued development all the way to 2002 like the FD, then the gap would have increased more.
Don't get me wrong I quite like the RX7, the simplicity of a rotary engine, and the FD looks amazing. But I wouldn't take one over a 951.
#18
a nice bridgeported rotary thou.... gotta love that brap haha
but yeah 944 looks and interior > rx-7
Also would not call a 951 more reliable than any rx7
#19
I had a S4 turbo but preferred driving my 944 n/a. Driving position and cockpit was pretty terrible, felt like I was sitting in a camaro. Handling was ok but didn't feel as precise as the 944, the rear wheel steering thing didn't help matters at all. It was of course faster in a straight line and had minimal mods.
Drove a high trim n/a s5 with some suspension stuff and it was great, it was super smooth engine wise and with roadholding. But it was basically the 944 with worse mileage.
Drove a high trim n/a s5 with some suspension stuff and it was great, it was super smooth engine wise and with roadholding. But it was basically the 944 with worse mileage.
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Having driven many of both and owned a few stock for stock FC vs 944 same year, your butt dyno wouldn't be able to tell which was faster, and I'm sure the 0-60 runs reflect that in 1/10's of seconds, the S5 turbo made 15hp less, but could be had with a lower curb weight than the 944 turbo, hell looking at the numbers they are dead even, from 86-89 the rx7 makes 4-5 hp less then the 944 in NA form but weighs a few hundred less, its really tit for tat at that point.
Really? I would, without compromise.
Total number of 944 (every trim) was 163,192. Total number of RX7 811,634. A safe bet is that there is a higher % of 944s still running today, than there are RX7s, even with the RX7s advantage of having a much newer generation of production. And without doubt I rarely see any FCs, but I do see the occasional 944.
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let me just say, why would you buy something that looks like a 944 other then a 944..
RX7 looks like a 924/944
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RX7 looks like a 924/944
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#22
The last gen FC turbo, the S5 was 1989-1991, so then you should be comparing to the 89 951: FC = 202hp, 951 = 250hp. That is a ~24% difference in power - not a small margin. And, I would be willing to bet the 951 made quite a bit more torque too.
Really? I would, without compromise.
Total number of 944 (every trim) was 163,192. Total number of RX7 811,634. A safe bet is that there is a higher % of 944s still running today, than there are RX7s, even with the RX7s advantage of having a much newer generation of production. And without doubt I rarely see any FCs, but I do see the occasional 944.
Really? I would, without compromise.
Total number of 944 (every trim) was 163,192. Total number of RX7 811,634. A safe bet is that there is a higher % of 944s still running today, than there are RX7s, even with the RX7s advantage of having a much newer generation of production. And without doubt I rarely see any FCs, but I do see the occasional 944.
I think in the end I would be happier with a NA FB vs. a NA 944, and I would take a 951 over a turbo 7, hopefully my garage will have both a 951, and a bridgeport 12a FB haha
Also whoever said an FC was like a camaro (sitting position) is totally spot on! It is not a comfortable position for spirited driving!
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editing your post slightly to kindly.... hope you don't mind.
exactly. per my last post. screw the cheap knockoff garbage.
the Jaguar E-type, Datson 240/260/280, and Porsche 924/944/968 for the win.
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exactly. per my last post. screw the cheap knockoff garbage.
the Jaguar E-type, Datson 240/260/280, and Porsche 924/944/968 for the win.
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