Why the 4-cyl Transaxles are so Good.
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That helps clarify- thanks. What magazine was it? Bonus month and year?
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the interior of that car also has an updated water-cooled-911 style console, shift boot and ****...
and if you can believe it, even a cup holder.
can't understand why these killer upgrades never found their way into the production cars.
then again, the 928 dash was even more eregious back in those days.
getting an updated dash into production must have been an even higher priority....
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and if you can believe it, even a cup holder.
can't understand why these killer upgrades never found their way into the production cars.
then again, the 928 dash was even more eregious back in those days.
getting an updated dash into production must have been an even higher priority....
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pull the passenger seat back and you can easily stack 3 or 4 surfboards [fins up for Ruggles].
for you guys that live in the mid-west;
this is Ruggles, Newport, Rhode Island, August 27th, 2010 performing it's Bells Beach, Australia improv....
and also why i drive a hatchback....
ASP Tour pro Ian Walsh scores a near perfect ride [@ 2:04], followed up by
Guinness World Record holder Garrett McNamara on his stand up paddle board taking one for two hundred yards.....
and here's what a set wave looks like at Ruggles [@ 1:20]
for you guys that live in the mid-west;
this is Ruggles, Newport, Rhode Island, August 27th, 2010 performing it's Bells Beach, Australia improv....
and also why i drive a hatchback....
ASP Tour pro Ian Walsh scores a near perfect ride [@ 2:04], followed up by
Guinness World Record holder Garrett McNamara on his stand up paddle board taking one for two hundred yards.....
and here's what a set wave looks like at Ruggles [@ 1:20]
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o man, the list
951 was the first production car to have a ceramic port lined turbo
968 turbo rs was first porsche production turbo rs
924 carrera gtp was a 951 engine in 1982
the 951 was supposed to debut in 84 but the reemergance of the 911 put it off a couple years
the 911 gt1 944 specific parts(i'm taking a guess) were the intercoolers
porsche wasn't the first company to use a rear mounted transaxle, alfa romeo used it in the early 70's. however they had clutch issue(it was in the rear as well) porsche helped research the problem, and this is why the audi trans still has a bell housing but the clutch is up front
the 968 turbo s and rs cost more than a 911 turbo
american sales wen't down almost every year from 77-95, where as sales around the world went up
only 1 924 carrera gts had comfort features(finished interior, regular sport seats;not lollipop, full dashboard) on those cars, only 2 had dry sumps
PCGB came up with the 3 national 924 cgt-r race cars for 81
i've got more, but my books are upstairs. i'll put em up in a few.
951 was the first production car to have a ceramic port lined turbo
968 turbo rs was first porsche production turbo rs
924 carrera gtp was a 951 engine in 1982
the 951 was supposed to debut in 84 but the reemergance of the 911 put it off a couple years
the 911 gt1 944 specific parts(i'm taking a guess) were the intercoolers
porsche wasn't the first company to use a rear mounted transaxle, alfa romeo used it in the early 70's. however they had clutch issue(it was in the rear as well) porsche helped research the problem, and this is why the audi trans still has a bell housing but the clutch is up front
the 968 turbo s and rs cost more than a 911 turbo
american sales wen't down almost every year from 77-95, where as sales around the world went up
only 1 924 carrera gts had comfort features(finished interior, regular sport seats;not lollipop, full dashboard) on those cars, only 2 had dry sumps
PCGB came up with the 3 national 924 cgt-r race cars for 81
i've got more, but my books are upstairs. i'll put em up in a few.
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Derek bell still owns his 924 carrera
there were more than 406 924 carrera's built, closer to 430
86 951 drag coefficient of .33 was the best of any production car in the world at the time
951 make 0-100mph in a little of 15 seconds...right under 80's supercar territory
a 924 was tested on the autobahn and achieved 42mpg...hmmm green sports car
due to the cheapness of an e30 bmw, porsche made the gas tank larger to better compete against e30's on the track
the s2 cabrio was supposed to come out in 87, but porsche held off to wait for the new s2 engine
924 gtp made "420hp" but most feel it was over 500. a hp/L was 250:1
books i have: Porsche The Carrera Dynasty, 911&Porsche #204, Porsche the ultimate guide, Porsche classics, Porsche 924, 944 & 968(best form of interesting facts on the cars)
924 gtp had dohc turbo, never made it to production as we all know
there were more than 406 924 carrera's built, closer to 430
86 951 drag coefficient of .33 was the best of any production car in the world at the time
951 make 0-100mph in a little of 15 seconds...right under 80's supercar territory
a 924 was tested on the autobahn and achieved 42mpg...hmmm green sports car
due to the cheapness of an e30 bmw, porsche made the gas tank larger to better compete against e30's on the track
the s2 cabrio was supposed to come out in 87, but porsche held off to wait for the new s2 engine
924 gtp made "420hp" but most feel it was over 500. a hp/L was 250:1
books i have: Porsche The Carrera Dynasty, 911&Porsche #204, Porsche the ultimate guide, Porsche classics, Porsche 924, 944 & 968(best form of interesting facts on the cars)
924 gtp had dohc turbo, never made it to production as we all know
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[QUOTE=87 944. C:9861966]
"porsche wasn't the first company to use a rear mounted transaxle, alfa romeo used it in the early 70's. however they had clutch issue(it was in the rear as well) porsche helped research the problem, and this is why the audi trans still has a bell housing but the clutch is up front
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the bell housing was there because Porsche used the trans-axle from the Audi Quattro?
"porsche wasn't the first company to use a rear mounted transaxle, alfa romeo used it in the early 70's. however they had clutch issue(it was in the rear as well) porsche helped research the problem, and this is why the audi trans still has a bell housing but the clutch is up front
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the bell housing was there because Porsche used the trans-axle from the Audi Quattro?
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ummm.....
the list of transaxle cars before the Alphas and Porsches is as long as your arm.
but Porsche really put the design on the map.
from the wiki:
1898-1910 De Dion Bouton
1914–1939 Stutz Bearcat
1929–1936 Bugatti Type 46
1934–1944 Škoda Popular and Škoda Rapid
1946–1952 Škoda Tudor and Škoda 1101
1950–1958 Lancia Aurelia
1951–1956 Pegaso Z-102
1957–1970 Lancia Flaminia
1961–1963 Pontiac Tempest
1964–1968 Ferrari 275
1963-1968 Ferrari 330
1968–1973 Ferrari Daytona
1972–1987 Alfa Romeo Alfetta
1974–1987 Alfa Romeo GTV/Alfa Romeo GTV6
1976–1988 Porsche 924
1976–1991 Volvo 300 series
1977–1985 Alfa Romeo Giulietta
1978–1995 Porsche 928
1982–1995 Porsche 944 and Porsche 968
1984–1987 Alfa Romeo 90
1985–1992 Alfa Romeo 75
1989–1991 Alfa Romeo SZ
1992–2003 Ferrari 456
1996–2005 Ferrari 550/575M
1997–up Chevrolet Corvette
1997–1999 Panoz Esperante GTR-1
1997-2002 Plymouth Prowler
1998-2005 Shelby Series 1
2003-2006 Chevrolet SSR
2003–on Aston Martin DB9
2004–on Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
2004–on Maserati Quattroporte
2005–up Aston Martin V8 Vantage
2006–up Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
2008-up Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
2009–up Lexus LF-A
2010-up Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
the list of transaxle cars before the Alphas and Porsches is as long as your arm.
but Porsche really put the design on the map.
from the wiki:
1898-1910 De Dion Bouton
1914–1939 Stutz Bearcat
1929–1936 Bugatti Type 46
1934–1944 Škoda Popular and Škoda Rapid
1946–1952 Škoda Tudor and Škoda 1101
1950–1958 Lancia Aurelia
1951–1956 Pegaso Z-102
1957–1970 Lancia Flaminia
1961–1963 Pontiac Tempest
1964–1968 Ferrari 275
1963-1968 Ferrari 330
1968–1973 Ferrari Daytona
1972–1987 Alfa Romeo Alfetta
1974–1987 Alfa Romeo GTV/Alfa Romeo GTV6
1976–1988 Porsche 924
1976–1991 Volvo 300 series
1977–1985 Alfa Romeo Giulietta
1978–1995 Porsche 928
1982–1995 Porsche 944 and Porsche 968
1984–1987 Alfa Romeo 90
1985–1992 Alfa Romeo 75
1989–1991 Alfa Romeo SZ
1992–2003 Ferrari 456
1996–2005 Ferrari 550/575M
1997–up Chevrolet Corvette
1997–1999 Panoz Esperante GTR-1
1997-2002 Plymouth Prowler
1998-2005 Shelby Series 1
2003-2006 Chevrolet SSR
2003–on Aston Martin DB9
2004–on Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
2004–on Maserati Quattroporte
2005–up Aston Martin V8 Vantage
2006–up Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
2008-up Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
2009–up Lexus LF-A
2010-up Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
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Well, the 951 engine mentioned in 1982 isn't by any means a 951 engine. It is a custom 16V head, turbocharged. Edit: sorry, you mentioned that!
The cabrio first debuted in 1985. I think Bauer and ASC had the final bids - went to ASC in Germany due to price I believe. The Bauer car had some unique features - different brakelights and more of a boat-tail that the production car. And the late interior with airbags - unique for 1985 at least.
Porsche and I think Bauer toyed with a 924 Targa too (a real Targa). Used to have pictures of it.
Posted pics further down on page 4.
May be the intercoolers too - although I really don't know. Almost certain on the two I'm thinking of (they look identical).
You sure about this one?
Take care!
The cabrio first debuted in 1985. I think Bauer and ASC had the final bids - went to ASC in Germany due to price I believe. The Bauer car had some unique features - different brakelights and more of a boat-tail that the production car. And the late interior with airbags - unique for 1985 at least.
Porsche and I think Bauer toyed with a 924 Targa too (a real Targa). Used to have pictures of it.
Posted pics further down on page 4.
May be the intercoolers too - although I really don't know. Almost certain on the two I'm thinking of (they look identical).
You sure about this one?
Take care!
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[quote=Jamesr6967;9861998]
"porsche wasn't the first company to use a rear mounted transaxle, alfa romeo used it in the early 70's. however they had clutch issue(it was in the rear as well) porsche helped research the problem, and this is why the audi trans still has a bell housing but the clutch is up front
"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the bell housing was there because Porsche used the trans-axle from the Audi Quattro?
it was bad wording on my part
Originally Posted by 87 944. C:9861966
"porsche wasn't the first company to use a rear mounted transaxle, alfa romeo used it in the early 70's. however they had clutch issue(it was in the rear as well) porsche helped research the problem, and this is why the audi trans still has a bell housing but the clutch is up front
"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the bell housing was there because Porsche used the trans-axle from the Audi Quattro?