"Outlaw" 944s....where are they?
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im doing that to my DD
although its not rhino liner im using, its some other stuff thats pretty light. maybe its just me, but i dont mind having a complete carpet delete. i've been running without carpet/insulation for several months.
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Good stuff.
My list:
Exterior:
- Early NA 944 with euro bumpers
- Early 924 hatch spoiler (haven't seen an R Gruppe car with a whale tail yet)
- Alpine white
- Red 'Porsche' door/rocker graphic
- Manual mirrors
Engine:
- Blown 944 3.1 liter NA hybrid
Interior:
- Cut down dash
- Purlon carpet
- Center console delete
- Rear seat delete
- RS door panels with red door pulls
- Red Recaro SRD's
- Momo Prototipo wheel, black, with a spiffy yellow TDC line
- Wannabe 917/Carrera GT shift ****
Suspension:
- Coil-over torsion bar delete
- 968 MO30 sway bars
- 17" aftermarket Fuchs with red petals
My list:
Exterior:
- Early NA 944 with euro bumpers
- Early 924 hatch spoiler (haven't seen an R Gruppe car with a whale tail yet)
- Alpine white
- Red 'Porsche' door/rocker graphic
- Manual mirrors
Engine:
- Blown 944 3.1 liter NA hybrid
Interior:
- Cut down dash
- Purlon carpet
- Center console delete
- Rear seat delete
- RS door panels with red door pulls
- Red Recaro SRD's
- Momo Prototipo wheel, black, with a spiffy yellow TDC line
- Wannabe 917/Carrera GT shift ****
Suspension:
- Coil-over torsion bar delete
- 968 MO30 sway bars
- 17" aftermarket Fuchs with red petals
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I'm curious to see how you and 944meister like the rhinoliner-like interior "insulation". And to see how much it would weigh compared to carpet with sound deadening.
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im just spraying the front foot well areas, so it shouldn't be more than 2-3lbs of bedliner. i think airbags should be left alone, but thats just me. i want to throw this book
at the idiot PO/machanic who unplugged both of my airbags
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Mine is getting there...slowly.
1983 N/A Zermatt Silver
Interior:
Rear seat delete
Center console delete
Radio delete
MK1 GTi steering wheel
A/C delete
Full perlon lightweight carpeting
Manual windows (924-style)
Both arm rests removed from the doors (fabric door pull installed)
Seats recovered in black vinyl/red tartan
Exterior
Removed clear stone guards
Replaced with black stone guards
Removed all rub strips
Euro rear bumper
Tucked OE front bumper with shaved bumper guards
Manually adjustable driver side mirror (924-style)
Red taillight modification
Suspension
968 M030 Sway bars
CIP1 28mm torsion bars
H&R sport springs
Koni sports on all four corners
More coming, I'm sure.
1983 N/A Zermatt Silver
Interior:
Rear seat delete
Center console delete
Radio delete
MK1 GTi steering wheel
A/C delete
Full perlon lightweight carpeting
Manual windows (924-style)
Both arm rests removed from the doors (fabric door pull installed)
Seats recovered in black vinyl/red tartan
Exterior
Removed clear stone guards
Replaced with black stone guards
Removed all rub strips
Euro rear bumper
Tucked OE front bumper with shaved bumper guards
Manually adjustable driver side mirror (924-style)
Red taillight modification
Suspension
968 M030 Sway bars
CIP1 28mm torsion bars
H&R sport springs
Koni sports on all four corners
More coming, I'm sure.
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I think you could install a radio or iPod mount where the clock /cig lighter are. Delete those and the console all at once.
Or...
Move the climate control unit over there and more the iPod/radio set up straight up.
Or...
Move the climate control unit over there and more the iPod/radio set up straight up.
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Quite a bit, had it blasted with dry ice to remove it. Sorta like soda blasting, but uses dry ice / mist. Normally used for removing mold from wood. Portable guy charged me $250, worth every penny. I am told soda blasting does a fine job too but can not confirm it.
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Oh yeah the 1/3 the weight was with the cans the liner and activator came in with no account for material lost due to over spray and so on. In reality i would say it is 1/4 the weight with almost the same sound deading. Floors are a lot less tinny sounding over nothing.
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I've gone with the Appbiz carpet set, deleted all the padding, and added some light coreflute panels under the carpet in the seating area to stop the carpet wearing too much.
I cut off the lower part of the door panel, and replaced that with a coreflute doorcard wrapped in microsuede. Out of weakness I kept the stereo and front speakers.
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Pulled the vinyl off all the interior trim and recovered with the same microsuede..
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Clear corner signals / side markers, no side strips. The aim is to clean the look of the car up.
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Also deleted the power aerial, rear wiper, hatch motor...
I've just added a nice white-text 924 gauge cluster.
Now I'm thinking I might delete the centre console (I carpeted underneath it) and replace the lower doorcards with thin CF sheet, delete the speakers and stereo.
If I can get manual sunroof latches, then I'll get rid of the sunroof motor etc. That would free me from having to find a place for the sunroof switch on the console.
If I could find good manual mirrors that would cover the flag mirror mounting holes, then I'd do that too - then I could delete the window switches and upper door panel trim.
Wishlist
Exterior
Brake cooling ducts
Remove underseal & repaint with POR15 - add thin flat plywood undersurface in mid-section with aluminium section over exhaust. (paint black)
Cut spare tire well and add simple flat rear diffuser
Rauh-Welt style front splitter / airdam.
Arch flares with late running gear / current early offset tires.
Flush-mount doorhandles from Volvo v70.
Aero wipers - possibly single wiper.
924 GTS headlights / front bumper?
Carbon front fenders, bonnet, header panel.
Interior
Flat centre console plate, more gauges, starter button.
I've also got a bondo'd dash plug to turn into a mould - carbon early dash?
What do people think about speedway / bomber style aluminium seats?
Engine / Performance
The ultimate outlaw would be carbs - I think ITB's are more my idea of progress.
Light-weight, responsive NA engine - although I'm still tempted by supercharging using an SC14. Anything lag-free.
Black and gold themed de-cluttered engine bay using a lot of wrinkle black paint.
Generally delete anything possible - no brake booster, AOS, possibly no balance shafts?
Lowering will be coilovers, but I've still not found the right solution in this area (The car is already lower than the pics - via eccentrics, and a slight trim on the front springs)
I cut off the lower part of the door panel, and replaced that with a coreflute doorcard wrapped in microsuede. Out of weakness I kept the stereo and front speakers.
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Pulled the vinyl off all the interior trim and recovered with the same microsuede..
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Clear corner signals / side markers, no side strips. The aim is to clean the look of the car up.
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Also deleted the power aerial, rear wiper, hatch motor...
I've just added a nice white-text 924 gauge cluster.
Now I'm thinking I might delete the centre console (I carpeted underneath it) and replace the lower doorcards with thin CF sheet, delete the speakers and stereo.
If I can get manual sunroof latches, then I'll get rid of the sunroof motor etc. That would free me from having to find a place for the sunroof switch on the console.
If I could find good manual mirrors that would cover the flag mirror mounting holes, then I'd do that too - then I could delete the window switches and upper door panel trim.
Wishlist
Exterior
Brake cooling ducts
Remove underseal & repaint with POR15 - add thin flat plywood undersurface in mid-section with aluminium section over exhaust. (paint black)
Cut spare tire well and add simple flat rear diffuser
Rauh-Welt style front splitter / airdam.
Arch flares with late running gear / current early offset tires.
Flush-mount doorhandles from Volvo v70.
Aero wipers - possibly single wiper.
924 GTS headlights / front bumper?
Carbon front fenders, bonnet, header panel.
Interior
Flat centre console plate, more gauges, starter button.
I've also got a bondo'd dash plug to turn into a mould - carbon early dash?
What do people think about speedway / bomber style aluminium seats?
Engine / Performance
The ultimate outlaw would be carbs - I think ITB's are more my idea of progress.
Light-weight, responsive NA engine - although I'm still tempted by supercharging using an SC14. Anything lag-free.
Black and gold themed de-cluttered engine bay using a lot of wrinkle black paint.
Generally delete anything possible - no brake booster, AOS, possibly no balance shafts?
Lowering will be coilovers, but I've still not found the right solution in this area (The car is already lower than the pics - via eccentrics, and a slight trim on the front springs)
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Darn it all guys now you got me going! I pulled all the carpeting out of the back of the car..MAN is it heavy! Will weigh it tonight. I will replace with lightweight carpet. Not too worried about sound deadening...its a convertable after all! Removed the power hatch/trunk release. It didn't work anymore, and the switch was removed long ago when the car was reinforced for the convertable. (firewall/rocker areas) I'm also doing this work, as the carpet was in poor shape anyways, as the snaps were missing (to cover the rear tail light area) 20lbs is 20lbs if you can remove it. Decklid is already fibreglass, so is already WAY lighter than a stock hatch.
This thread may end up turning into a weight deletion thread.....
This thread may end up turning into a weight deletion thread.....