I'm glad you have been fortunate so far to not have yours collapse. I hope your luck continues.

BUT, they are absolutely NOT stronger than the frame rails. And knowing what I know and what I've seen, I don't touch them.

 

Off-course I'm willing to learn and change my habits, safety is #1 and I spend a lot of time under my car. I just haven't seen any proof that these should not be used apart from the Internet rumour line. Any pics of failures not from corrosion? Anyone had a jackstand topple there when using a jackpad?

The argument about the factory using them all four at once because they distribute the weight evenly doesn't make any sense either. That would confirm they are safe to support at each corner individually supporting a 1/4 of the weight.

I will however take another look at the sheet metal there on mine and report back. Last time i looked (while ago) after years of using them I had not seen damage. Yet i always see sheet metal damage on frame rails on other cars.

 

Not definitive, how do you know he used a jackpad? As I say mine are not pushed on any of my cars after years of using them.

Just trying to get to the facts

 

Here's a stand with a nice wide base, but I can't suggest using any stand on a real uneven surface.

 

Hey guys, does anybody have a link to a small (hopefully cheaper) lift for a regular garage? If not, since I think most of them are rather expensive, what jack stands do you trust? Personally I tend not to trust them at all but the point about torquing the car in a bad way is something I've never thought of and definitely a valid point.

 

Have you looked at this one

http://www.gesusa.com/Dannmar-MaxJax...-p/1375659.htm

 

The chassis gets "torqued" every time you cross a curb at an angle, or dozens of other normal driving events. Unless you did something extreme while jacking, say lifting one corner way off the ground all at once instead of lifting evenly in increments, you can't do anything that will permanently twist the chassis.

I trust proper jackstands, properly set, far more than a cheap lift made in china.

 

yea idk just something about jackstands make me think they're gonna fail lol but then again I have rather cheap ones that I never use so I should probably invest in some good quality SAFE jackstands

 

Are you talking about jacks or jackstands?

 

whoops jackstands excuse me NOT jacks

jackstands make me a little nervous is what I meant to say

 

I'm looking to get a low rise lift to avoid this decision. They sell for between $1200 and $1500. I can't stand having the bottom of the car only a few inches from my face.