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pettybird 03-10-2011 01:06 AM

Mystery 931 Flat Dish wheel
 
This is an offshoot of a related thread, where a couple of sharp eyes noted that the wheels on my car were atypical. Has anyone else seen a Flat Dish with a valve stem seemingly randomly drilled into the wheel? Most valve stems come through one of the "windows" in the wheels...

The part number, clearly here, is 477.601.026 B. It's a 16x6" wheel from my 1980 924 Turbo with the "S" performance package.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5053/...6b7cce2be3.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/...6b6e0ecb95.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/...34fcd6cfd1.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5214/...6fdeb8af7d.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/...150d8d0169.jpghttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/...66cb45c67a.jpg

ELLSSUU 03-10-2011 02:15 AM

I take back my original post about those wheels as I have seen another set. If I remember correctly Racerbvd had a set on Pelican some time ago. Don't think that he knew what they came off of though.

They do appear to be unusual.

One other thing, I thought manholes had indentations on the back side of where they would become Clubsports if the material wasn't there. Am I wrong about this? Or could this have only been certain manholes that showed those indentations?

F2 Iceland 03-10-2011 08:03 AM

hmm i have a set of 6x16 flats from a 931 but not sure about the valve thingy

have to check it out

whalebird 03-10-2011 12:28 PM

Are they forged?

pettybird 03-10-2011 03:09 PM

flat dishes usually are. also, the part numbers are stamped, not cast, so I would think so.

Arominus 03-10-2011 04:11 PM

16x6 is the classic max size 924 wheel. The 924s had them as optional too, I wouldn't be surprised if the 24 turbo got its own casting.

M758 03-10-2011 04:23 PM

I had a set of 16x6 924 Turbo dishwheels. I never saw a large hole like that on them.

Riff 03-10-2011 08:15 PM

Is it me or do the top two pictures not match the next two? The top two show a large dia hole with a smaller dia hole inside. The second set show only the large dia hole from behind the wheel. What gives?

pettybird 03-10-2011 08:20 PM

angle of the picture. the face almost floats on the rim...kind of odd. I took the pictures within the same five minutes on my living room rug.

You gotta understand, man, that rug really ties the room together.

Marcquito 03-10-2011 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by ELLSSUU (Post 8370569)
I take back my original post about those wheels as I have seen another set. If I remember correctly Racerbvd had a set on Pelican some time ago. Don't think that he knew what they came off of though.

They do appear to be unusual.

One other thing, I thought manholes had indentations on the back side of where they would become Clubsports if the material wasn't there. Am I wrong about this? Or could this have only been certain manholes that showed those indentations?

You're absolutely right about this. I have a set on my '44 and you can definitely see where if you were to machine the material away, I would have a nice set of club sports. Been thinking about doing that for a set of years now...

ELLSSUU 03-11-2011 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Marcquito (Post 8373292)
You're absolutely right about this. I have a set on my '44 and you can definitely see where if you were to machine the material away, I would have a nice set of club sports. Been thinking about doing that for a set of years now...

I thought that I'd seen that before.......


So what we have here is a crazy set of wheels. Any Porsche stamp on them?

whalebird 03-11-2011 10:52 AM

The last, right hand photo appears to have the Porsche "triangle".

Prettybird...love the Labowski referance.

ideola 03-12-2011 10:21 PM

Very peculiar! I love a good mystery though. Hmm. I have a set of 6x16s, I'll have to see if I can check the part numbers on them...wonder if there was a supercession somewhere along the way...

ideola 03-12-2011 10:28 PM

If you click this link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

You can see an example of 931 flat dish with the exact same part number as pettybirds...but the valve stem hole is not in the same location. Here's a link to a photo from the top side, show the location of the valve stem hole:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I wonder if the really early examples were simply machined differently...they were forged after all, not cast...

FrenchToast 04-07-2017 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by ideola (Post 8379010)
If you click this link:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

You can see an example of 931 flat dish with the exact same part number as pettybirds...but the valve stem hole is not in the same location. Here's a link to a photo from the top side, show the location of the valve stem hole:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

I wonder if the really early examples were simply machined differently...they were forged after all, not cast...

D90s seem to have a similar story. Very early D90s produced by SM (not ATS) have spokes that curve up to the rim, like a clubsport.

They must have changed the design at some point. Backside is totally different as per Pettybird's pic above.

There is a set on eBay now. The picture caught my eye purely because of the valve stem. The openings appear to be narrower as well.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jMYAA...2Dn/s-l500.jpg

http://www.ebay.com/itm/16-1989-1990...BYP2Dn&vxp=mtr

Seem like something the 924board would like.


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