FS: *NEW PRICE * 1987 944 Turbo (951) - Great Car
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FS: *NEW PRICE * 1987 944 Turbo (951) - Great Car
Cross post to my 951 FS: https://rennlist.com/forums/for-sale...great-car.html
Last edited by brad-cam; 07-26-2011 at 02:55 AM.
02-23-2011 | 04:06 PM
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Looking to part with one of my obsessions.
Summary:
1987 Porsche 944 Turbo (951)
Excellent mechanical shape, no rust, heavily modified
Asking $11,900 but will entertain offers. Spare parts not included but can be negotiated separately if desired.
More pictures can be sent to interested parties. Please send me PM.
General comments:
Good solid 1987 Porsche 944 Turbo (951) has served me as a platform for cost-no-object mechanical improvement since I acquired it in 2005. I have put about 20,000 miles on it and drive it very little due to having several cars. It runs strong, straight, cooling system is tight and functions perfectly. I have focused on mechanical perfection in this car, focusing on engine, transmission, suspension and brakes. The paint has a few aesthetic issues from storage, zero rust. Shortly after I acquired the car, it succumbed to the well-known rod bearing #2 failure, likely a result of the previous owner running it low on oil. This prompted a full engine-out-of-car rebuild during which I replaced pretty much every “while you’re in there” part including the expensive clutch.
I bought this car in 2005 from a dealer in Denver, CO and had it shipped to Northern California where it has been since. There is no rust on this car, no crash damage and it is very solid. There are a few little things that don’t work as they should, all of which can be addressed pretty easily – I haven’t done it as they are not important to basic mechanical operation and they don’t get in my way. The leaky rear main seal is an annoyance and requires a big maintenance job (that I have done before so know) to fix so I have just lived with it.
I have many spare parts for this car, way too numerous to mention, including a rebuilt, ready-to-install spare engine (!) and yes a transmission too. I also have the parts to bring the engine back to factory intake specs (AFM, stock injectors, stock DME, etc).
The interior is very clean. The seats are the heavily bolstered Porsche sport seats, recovered in German vinyl. Interior color is linen. The only issue of note are some cracks on the top of the dash. These are common in 944’s and can be covered with a dash cover is desired.
Don’t miss the beautiful OEM 993 18” wheels !
This car has dyno’ed at about 300HP at the rear wheels and it is tuned a little rich to protect the motor, so expect with some tinkering on the laptop (using the Perfect Power SMT6) to lean it up a bit, you could get an exta 20-30 HP out of it. There is also a Innovate LC-1 wideband O2 sensor to help with this. Drivability-wise, this car is a power monster. As expected with the K27/8 turbo, boost builds a little later that the stock K26, around 3500rpm, but it pulls like a freight train to redline. The Vitesse MAF kit has been specifically tuned by John at Vitesse for my combination of parts.
Take a look below to get more detail on the car, including all the things that have been replaced in the last 20,000 miles/5 years. Focus has been on engine, suspension and brakes and pretty much everything has been replaced or refreshed in those areas. I have probably forgotten to mention something that has been replaced, so if there is an area you are worried or curious about, please inquire.
Current mileage is about 95,000.
Engine rebuild at 78,500 miles:
Replaced
- Piston rings
- Rod bearings
- Main bearings
- Good used crankshaft
- New connecting rod (to replace damaged #2 rod)
- All gaskets and seals (including wide fire head gasket and oil pan)
- Head stud nuts and washers
- All belts including Timing and balance shaft belts
- Plugs, plug wires, rotor and distributor cap
- Water pump and thermostats (main and turbo)
- Clutch, pressure plate and throw-out bearing
- Clutch hydraulic line, master and slave clutch cylinders
- O2 sensor
- New fuel lines
- Venturi delete kit
- All vacuum lines replaced
- Manual boost controller
- Oil Pressure Regulator valve
- Oil Pressure Sender
- Cooling sensors (DME sensor, water temp sender, fan switch)
- 55lb/hr Siemens fuel injectors
Also replaced since 78,500 mile point:
- Drive axle joints (and bolts)
- Wheel bearings – front and rear
- Radiator
- All cooling system hoses
- Exhaust manifold (replaced with a good used set)
- New Sachs shocks – rear
- Refreshed front control arms – ball joints rebuilt
- 968 front control arm bushings
- Front and rear brake pads
- Starter motor (replaced with a good used one)
- Front brake rotors (Zimmerman cross drilled)
- Steering rack (replaced with a good used one from late model 968)
- Tie-rods and tie rod ends
- Battery
- Throttle position sensor
- Throttle body reseal kit
- Power steering pump reseal
- Power steering hoses
- Fuel pump
- Stainless brake lines
Performance Add ons
- Vitesse Racing MAF Kit (MAF and Chip-Board for DME)
- Perfect Power SMT6 Piggyback Controller
- KKK K27/8 Turbocharger
- 3.0-bar Fuel pressure regulator
- Innovate LC-1 Wideband O2 sensor
- Speedforce Racing 3” Catback Exhaust
- Speedforce Racing 3” intermediate pipe including Cat and track pipe (interchangeable)
- Aluminum adjustable camber plates (front)
- Tial 38mm turbo wastegate
- Coil-over springs, 250lb, front
- M030 968 OEM sway bars – front and rear
- Eyelet sway drop links - rear
- Strut mount reinforcement bar
- Catch can for crankcase
- Short-shift kit
Other
- OEM Porsche 993 18” Turbo Twist wheels
- Pirelli PZero tires (225 front, 265 rear)
- OEM Sport seats recovered in German vinyl
- Kenwood CD Stereo, Subwoofer, Blaupunkt Sub Amp
- Momo steering wheel (with 1” extension)
- New dash bulbs (brighter)
- Perfect functioning digital dash clock (these are known to go bad)
- Modified shifter to take standard M10-1.5 shift ****
- New underhood padding
- New headlights
- New motor mounts
- Tranmission fluid changed (Redline)
- Power window switches
- New rear cargo area carpet
- Carpeted platform in rear to cover sound system components
- Accessory gauge panel with VDO Boost/Vacuum, Oil temp and clock gauges
Issues
- Rear window defroster doesn’t work
- Paint is damaged in a few areas – whitening due to being under car cover in winter
- Paint - front fenders
- Paint - Hood
- Paint - Sunroof (functions fine, just has a whitish haze on paint)
- Small oil leak from back of engine – believed to be rear main seal
- Leaves a few drops on driveway, leaks under boost, slight burnt oil smell after a hard run (oil on exhaust)
- A/C inoperative – all parts are in place
- Power mirrors are inoperative
- Power locks are temperamental. Need to manually lock passenger door
- Air bags are deactivated (driver side is removed completely)
- Several cracks on the top of the dashboard
- Cruise control doesn’t work
Looking to part with one of my obsessions.
Summary:
1987 Porsche 944 Turbo (951)
Excellent mechanical shape, no rust, heavily modified
Asking $11,900 but will entertain offers. Spare parts not included but can be negotiated separately if desired.
More pictures can be sent to interested parties. Please send me PM.
General comments:
Good solid 1987 Porsche 944 Turbo (951) has served me as a platform for cost-no-object mechanical improvement since I acquired it in 2005. I have put about 20,000 miles on it and drive it very little due to having several cars. It runs strong, straight, cooling system is tight and functions perfectly. I have focused on mechanical perfection in this car, focusing on engine, transmission, suspension and brakes. The paint has a few aesthetic issues from storage, zero rust. Shortly after I acquired the car, it succumbed to the well-known rod bearing #2 failure, likely a result of the previous owner running it low on oil. This prompted a full engine-out-of-car rebuild during which I replaced pretty much every “while you’re in there” part including the expensive clutch.
I bought this car in 2005 from a dealer in Denver, CO and had it shipped to Northern California where it has been since. There is no rust on this car, no crash damage and it is very solid. There are a few little things that don’t work as they should, all of which can be addressed pretty easily – I haven’t done it as they are not important to basic mechanical operation and they don’t get in my way. The leaky rear main seal is an annoyance and requires a big maintenance job (that I have done before so know) to fix so I have just lived with it.
I have many spare parts for this car, way too numerous to mention, including a rebuilt, ready-to-install spare engine (!) and yes a transmission too. I also have the parts to bring the engine back to factory intake specs (AFM, stock injectors, stock DME, etc).
The interior is very clean. The seats are the heavily bolstered Porsche sport seats, recovered in German vinyl. Interior color is linen. The only issue of note are some cracks on the top of the dash. These are common in 944’s and can be covered with a dash cover is desired.
Don’t miss the beautiful OEM 993 18” wheels !
This car has dyno’ed at about 300HP at the rear wheels and it is tuned a little rich to protect the motor, so expect with some tinkering on the laptop (using the Perfect Power SMT6) to lean it up a bit, you could get an exta 20-30 HP out of it. There is also a Innovate LC-1 wideband O2 sensor to help with this. Drivability-wise, this car is a power monster. As expected with the K27/8 turbo, boost builds a little later that the stock K26, around 3500rpm, but it pulls like a freight train to redline. The Vitesse MAF kit has been specifically tuned by John at Vitesse for my combination of parts.
Take a look below to get more detail on the car, including all the things that have been replaced in the last 20,000 miles/5 years. Focus has been on engine, suspension and brakes and pretty much everything has been replaced or refreshed in those areas. I have probably forgotten to mention something that has been replaced, so if there is an area you are worried or curious about, please inquire.
Current mileage is about 95,000.
Engine rebuild at 78,500 miles:
Replaced
- Piston rings
- Rod bearings
- Main bearings
- Good used crankshaft
- New connecting rod (to replace damaged #2 rod)
- All gaskets and seals (including wide fire head gasket and oil pan)
- Head stud nuts and washers
- All belts including Timing and balance shaft belts
- Plugs, plug wires, rotor and distributor cap
- Water pump and thermostats (main and turbo)
- Clutch, pressure plate and throw-out bearing
- Clutch hydraulic line, master and slave clutch cylinders
- O2 sensor
- New fuel lines
- Venturi delete kit
- All vacuum lines replaced
- Manual boost controller
- Oil Pressure Regulator valve
- Oil Pressure Sender
- Cooling sensors (DME sensor, water temp sender, fan switch)
- 55lb/hr Siemens fuel injectors
Also replaced since 78,500 mile point:
- Drive axle joints (and bolts)
- Wheel bearings – front and rear
- Radiator
- All cooling system hoses
- Exhaust manifold (replaced with a good used set)
- New Sachs shocks – rear
- Refreshed front control arms – ball joints rebuilt
- 968 front control arm bushings
- Front and rear brake pads
- Starter motor (replaced with a good used one)
- Front brake rotors (Zimmerman cross drilled)
- Steering rack (replaced with a good used one from late model 968)
- Tie-rods and tie rod ends
- Battery
- Throttle position sensor
- Throttle body reseal kit
- Power steering pump reseal
- Power steering hoses
- Fuel pump
- Stainless brake lines
Performance Add ons
- Vitesse Racing MAF Kit (MAF and Chip-Board for DME)
- Perfect Power SMT6 Piggyback Controller
- KKK K27/8 Turbocharger
- 3.0-bar Fuel pressure regulator
- Innovate LC-1 Wideband O2 sensor
- Speedforce Racing 3” Catback Exhaust
- Speedforce Racing 3” intermediate pipe including Cat and track pipe (interchangeable)
- Aluminum adjustable camber plates (front)
- Tial 38mm turbo wastegate
- Coil-over springs, 250lb, front
- M030 968 OEM sway bars – front and rear
- Eyelet sway drop links - rear
- Strut mount reinforcement bar
- Catch can for crankcase
- Short-shift kit
Other
- OEM Porsche 993 18” Turbo Twist wheels
- Pirelli PZero tires (225 front, 265 rear)
- OEM Sport seats recovered in German vinyl
- Kenwood CD Stereo, Subwoofer, Blaupunkt Sub Amp
- Momo steering wheel (with 1” extension)
- New dash bulbs (brighter)
- Perfect functioning digital dash clock (these are known to go bad)
- Modified shifter to take standard M10-1.5 shift ****
- New underhood padding
- New headlights
- New motor mounts
- Tranmission fluid changed (Redline)
- Power window switches
- New rear cargo area carpet
- Carpeted platform in rear to cover sound system components
- Accessory gauge panel with VDO Boost/Vacuum, Oil temp and clock gauges
Issues
- Rear window defroster doesn’t work
- Paint is damaged in a few areas – whitening due to being under car cover in winter
- Paint - front fenders
- Paint - Hood
- Paint - Sunroof (functions fine, just has a whitish haze on paint)
- Small oil leak from back of engine – believed to be rear main seal
- Leaves a few drops on driveway, leaks under boost, slight burnt oil smell after a hard run (oil on exhaust)
- A/C inoperative – all parts are in place
- Power mirrors are inoperative
- Power locks are temperamental. Need to manually lock passenger door
- Air bags are deactivated (driver side is removed completely)
- Several cracks on the top of the dashboard
- Cruise control doesn’t work
Last edited by brad-cam; 07-26-2011 at 02:54 AM.
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