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Old 02-10-2011, 09:12 PM
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Arrow Feeler:GROUP BUY -944 N/A CARBON FIBER SPLITTER (foha replica)

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I have contacted Richard at club autosport UK regarding the foha replica splitter they are currently making.To be honest initially i just wanted to buy one for myself but i thought that it would be a good opportunity for a group buy discount.He said they can produce two versions ,fiberglass and carbon fiber with fiberglass in stock but carbon made to order only.
I think i speak for all of us when i say that carbon is the obvious better choice mainly because of its greater durability and this in the long run will result in savings because you wont have to repair or change your fiberglass splitter every time you hit something.
Since they are made to order there will obviously be a waiting period (production time) ,this is still to be discussed.
They have them priced at
100£ for fiberglass plus shipping
200£ for carbon fiber plus shipping
The deal is 20% GROUP BUY DISCOUNT for a minimum of 10 splitters

Now the big question is WHO WANTS ONE

more pics to come...
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:50 PM
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While I would be very interested in one, wouldn't a carbon fiber spoiler be just as easy to damage as fiberglass?
Old 02-11-2011, 12:19 AM
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In for fiberglass model. also, just to clarify, is the 100 pound price AFTER the 20% discount group buy?
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While I would be very interested in one, wouldn't a carbon fiber spoiler be just as easy to damage as fiberglass?
Carbon is much stronger than fiberglass,where fiberglass will brake carbon would just get a scrape in the gell coat if any.
In for fiberglass model. also, just to clarify, is the 100 pound price AFTER the 20% discount group buy?
Both prices are BEFORE 20% discount.
I myself would like to do a group buy for carbon fiber ,i'll have to check with Richard if the discount stands for a mixed buy.
Old 02-11-2011, 06:34 AM
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More pictures please. I'm very interested.
Old 02-11-2011, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by catamax944
Carbon is much stronger than fiberglass,where fiberglass will brake carbon would just get a scrape in the gell coat if any.
really good CF doesnt use a gelcoat so youll get fiber damage in a scrape.

If your CF has a gelcoat....
GelCoat scrapes no matter what is beneath it.


CF is much stronger than fiberglass.....POUND FOR POUND.
I have some 8.9oz/sqyd 3k CF fabric
I have some glass 3k that weighs 8.8oz/sqyd
You can brag weight...use fewer layers of CF for the same part....strength remains
Or you can brag about strength....use the same number of layers....eliminate weight savings....increase structural integrity...which I assume is what you mean by strength.

CF and Fglass both get quite nasty in a critical failure.
Carbon is extremely strong in tension and compression and is by far the stiffest of the fibers. This stiffness translates to shear force breaks....there is something to be said for flexibility...especially after something shatters.
After an accident.....
Your Fglass you might be able to repair....
Your CF will make interesting wall art in the garage.

I prefer Aramids....
Kevlar. 15% weaker then CF lb/lb....and while the impregnation matrix will crack you wont get the same shatter or shred effect both CF and Fglass provide.

Negative....poor UV resistance.......Ugly yellow color of raw kevlar.

Solution..... TECHNORA
Old 02-11-2011, 07:08 AM
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what were the original Foha ones made from?

im interested in a fibeglass one. the additional cost for the cf + freight to NZL makes it a bit out of my reach
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really good CF doesnt use a gelcoat so youll get fiber damage in a scrape.

If your CF has a gelcoat....
GelCoat scrapes no matter what is beneath it.


CF is much stronger than fiberglass.....POUND FOR POUND.
I have some 8.9oz/sqyd 3k CF fabric
I have some glass 3k that weighs 8.8oz/sqyd
You can brag weight...use fewer layers of CF for the same part....strength remains
Or you can brag about strength....use the same number of layers....eliminate weight savings....increase structural integrity...which I assume is what you mean by strength.

CF and Fglass both get quite nasty in a critical failure.
Carbon is extremely strong in tension and compression and is by far the stiffest of the fibers. This stiffness translates to shear force breaks....there is something to be said for flexibility...especially after something shatters.
After an accident.....
Your Fglass you might be able to repair....
Your CF will make interesting wall art in the garage.

I prefer Aramids....
Kevlar. 15% weaker then CF lb/lb....and while the impregnation matrix will crack you wont get the same shatter or shred effect both CF and Fglass provide.

Negative....poor UV resistance.......Ugly yellow color of raw kevlar.

Solution..... TECHNORA
It was my own unprofessional opinion ,you definitely have a better understanding of both materials. What do you think would be the better candidate for a splitter and which one is worth buying considering the price?
what were the original Foha ones made from?

im interested in a fibeglass one. the additional cost for the cf + freight to NZL makes it a bit out of my reach
They were made of a material similar to that of which the factory rear spoiler is made of.
More pictures please. I'm very interested.
More picture are coming as soon as Richard sends them to me .
I thought you were selling your 944?

Ok so here's how we stand at the moment ,correct me if i'm wrong
1. catamax
2. elzergone
3. kenkawai993
4. fressssssh
5. J1NX3D

at least 5 more to go....
Old 02-11-2011, 11:00 AM
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I had an origional Foha lip spoiler on my 83 Lux, and it is the same sort of material as the rear spoiler.I think the contrast against Guards red is or white paint is great.

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Old 02-11-2011, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by catamax944

at least 5 more to go....

Hmmm... these are mostly for cosmetic purposes, right? Do these actually improve aerodynamics at all (they might decrease it)?
Old 02-11-2011, 12:53 PM
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Might be interested but I want some photos of them and how to mount them on the bumper ? And how mutch lower the front will be with it on.
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I'll have to withdraw my name from the list. I just remembered I'm getting a turbo front end from another lister

Sorry
Old 02-11-2011, 01:35 PM
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I had an original Foha on my n/a also. It adds about 1" of overhang on the front valance. Actual aerodynamic properties are questionable but the original ad's for did say they they improve aero. As already mentioned the material is similar to the rear spoiler, it is pretty durable also. It had grounded out on more than a few occasions and it never had much more than a few scuffs on the underside, no real physical damage at all. It had also taken a few direct impacts from cones at auto-x and held up fine.
Old 02-11-2011, 01:54 PM
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I might be interested in a glass one.
Speaking a engineer who has extensive composite experiance both with Jaguar and Porsche Group C cars, glass is a far better choice for a road car splitter, although I agree Kevlar would have its advantages.
Old 02-11-2011, 02:32 PM
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This is a great idea and I am interested in more pics. Given the choice I think I would go for the carbon fiber....if I lived somewhere with decent roads it would be an easy choice.

I have considered trying this stuff on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

It sounds as though it is made from closed cell foam (like the rear spoiler is). My concern is being in Mississippi that sooner or later I will hit something with it (bumpy roads, road kill, deer hunter etc) and foam would be much more forgiving than fiberglass or carbon fiber.

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