944T>996TT?!?!
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This argument is as old as time itself.
Ran into it when I was into Shelby-Dodges. Ran into it when I was into DSMs. Ran into it when I had my Corvette.
It's always interesting to see how an older/cheaper car stacks up to a newer/expensive one, just for the fun of it. But the inevitable argument that follows is always one that you can't win - from either side. Box stock vs. box stock, we know the 996TT will dust a 951 handily. But add mods, and the 951 can beat the 996TT. Then then add the same mods to the 996TT, and the 996TT is back on top. Then the argument will turn to how much money one person spent vs. the other to win. Then some guy in a Civic joins in the fun and starts talking about HP-per-liter....
Can't we just call the story entertaining and leave it at that?
Ran into it when I was into Shelby-Dodges. Ran into it when I was into DSMs. Ran into it when I had my Corvette.
It's always interesting to see how an older/cheaper car stacks up to a newer/expensive one, just for the fun of it. But the inevitable argument that follows is always one that you can't win - from either side. Box stock vs. box stock, we know the 996TT will dust a 951 handily. But add mods, and the 951 can beat the 996TT. Then then add the same mods to the 996TT, and the 996TT is back on top. Then the argument will turn to how much money one person spent vs. the other to win. Then some guy in a Civic joins in the fun and starts talking about HP-per-liter....
Can't we just call the story entertaining and leave it at that?
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My mistake then. Seemed to me you were boasting about beating/"being greater than" a 996 TT. I must have read into it too much and knee jerked. Sorry if it seemed personal.
The real irony of all this nonsense is that I have a 944 "outlaw" project I'm working on that is destined to have an LS3 stuffed into it. Who knows, maybe I'll soon post my own 944 > thread and I can get slammed.
The real irony of all this nonsense is that I have a 944 "outlaw" project I'm working on that is destined to have an LS3 stuffed into it. Who knows, maybe I'll soon post my own 944 > thread and I can get slammed.
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I'll wait for the good weather
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I think my wife's Land Rover could take it though
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I haven't ridden in a 996TT before... but I have had the fortunate experience of getting to drive a friend's new 997TT, and it's a pretty wild ride. If the 996TT is anywhere close to the straight line performance of the 997TT, then that is one hell of a 951!
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My mistake then. Seemed to me you were boasting about beating/"being greater than" a 996 TT. I must have read into it too much and knee jerked. Sorry if it seemed personal.
The real irony of all this nonsense is that I have a 944 "outlaw" project I'm working on that is destined to have an LS3 stuffed into it. Who knows, maybe I'll soon post my own 944 > thread and I can get slammed.
The real irony of all this nonsense is that I have a 944 "outlaw" project I'm working on that is destined to have an LS3 stuffed into it. Who knows, maybe I'll soon post my own 944 > thread and I can get slammed.
Here is a youtube video of a 944 vs a LS3
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VulN2ywAfFM
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I was looking forward to a good thread battle.......lost any reason to post this image:
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I've never been to the 944 Fest
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Hey Hotshoe, where in Florida are you?
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LOL. I'm with you 100% on that.
I haven't ridden in a 996TT before... but I have had the fortunate experience of getting to drive a friend's new 997TT, and it's a pretty wild ride. If the 996TT is anywhere close to the straight line performance of the 997TT, then that is one hell of a 951!
I haven't ridden in a 996TT before... but I have had the fortunate experience of getting to drive a friend's new 997TT, and it's a pretty wild ride. If the 996TT is anywhere close to the straight line performance of the 997TT, then that is one hell of a 951!
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No problem. Its a peppy car for what it is. Unfortunately Im already used to its straight line speed. The next step is E85 conversion, head work and stripping weight. The weight stripping will be the best impact on lap times.
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If you get down this way let me know and you can stop by and see the little collection I manage next to my studio. Not many Porsches but we do have a very nice 356, Carrera S, and a GT3.
We can get a thread battle going about LSX swaps!
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If I grenade my current engine and my spare 2.5L Id consider a LSX stuffed 951.
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Other than a 10+ year old car starting to have electrical problems (what else is new), and the usual turbo headaches, I don't see what is so unreliable about the rest of the 996.
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I think overall it's fair to say that the general age and 'maturity' of the 944 guys vs the 996tt guys is going to be younger. This is exactly when you do go out on the streets and proceed to look for kills of this nature. Hopefully in a safe environment. I am not a fan of the 3 honks and floor it form of street drag, but I can see why the kids do it. To me it's not racing, it is a pissing match and one that is usually taken by the guy who's spent more money on a car that won't stand up to the rigors of track racing. Still, I bet virtually all of us have had a street drag when we were younger.
The fact that an old forgotten if not dismissed model of Porsche can walk a modern twin turbo with 1.1L extra capacity is a fair kill. Why should it be a surprise that it gets told on a forum. Sure, spend a few bucks on the 996tt and it will rocket past the same 951...but how much did it cost to get there? Spend the same amount that you have on the tt and see how fast the 951 is etc....
I think the most satisfying thing is that the guys in their 996, 997, GT3/2s that used to not even look at our cars in the pits or on the track, now come up and talk or want to check them out.
So the 951 may not be the greatest car or even Porsche out there, of course it's not. But it's sure fun to beat the guys with the cars that are regarded far above us on the pecking order. Why shouldn't we be proud.
The fact that an old forgotten if not dismissed model of Porsche can walk a modern twin turbo with 1.1L extra capacity is a fair kill. Why should it be a surprise that it gets told on a forum. Sure, spend a few bucks on the 996tt and it will rocket past the same 951...but how much did it cost to get there? Spend the same amount that you have on the tt and see how fast the 951 is etc....
I think the most satisfying thing is that the guys in their 996, 997, GT3/2s that used to not even look at our cars in the pits or on the track, now come up and talk or want to check them out.
So the 951 may not be the greatest car or even Porsche out there, of course it's not. But it's sure fun to beat the guys with the cars that are regarded far above us on the pecking order. Why shouldn't we be proud.
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