Oil Filter
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this post keeps making its way down the forum so im puttin it back up there in hopes someone will resond soon cus my car is on ramps and i dont wanna take it down.
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[quote]Originally posted by Willporsche944:
<strong>i know this sounds stupid but where the hell is the oil filter</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hopefully, on the oil filter boss.
But seriously, it's on the right (passenger, in LHD cars) side of the engine.
<strong>i know this sounds stupid but where the hell is the oil filter</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hopefully, on the oil filter boss.
But seriously, it's on the right (passenger, in LHD cars) side of the engine.
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Don't bother punching a hole in the oil filter if its an OEM type (either saying "Porsche" or "Mahle" on it), as it has a check valve in it that won't allow the oil to drain back down it. And if you AREN'T running an OEM equivalent (or better yet, a Canton), you will most like come to regret it!
Regards, ...Scott
Regards, ...Scott
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[quote] if you AREN'T running an OEM equivalent (or better yet, a Canton), you will most like come to regret it! <hr></blockquote>
I gave up on using a Canton/Mecca canister style filter. The anti-drainback "valve" in the CM filter is so half-assed that I always had the feeling I was dry starting in the morning (it sure sounded that way). I've gone back to using a standard OE style filter with good results and will simply put up with the headache of a minor oil spill whenever I change the filter.
I think the CM is best suited for use with a pre-oiler like the one CM sells (Accusump) since it seems to render the anti-drainback valve pointless.
I gave up on using a Canton/Mecca canister style filter. The anti-drainback "valve" in the CM filter is so half-assed that I always had the feeling I was dry starting in the morning (it sure sounded that way). I've gone back to using a standard OE style filter with good results and will simply put up with the headache of a minor oil spill whenever I change the filter.
I think the CM is best suited for use with a pre-oiler like the one CM sells (Accusump) since it seems to render the anti-drainback valve pointless.
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An oversize filter (the version that is a couple inches taller) probably wouldn't do much good as long as you change filters every couple years. <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
And if the drain back preventor leaks, a taller filter would starve the engine of immediate oil a bit longer.
And if the drain back preventor leaks, a taller filter would starve the engine of immediate oil a bit longer.
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The oil that leaks out is between the filter and the mount, so whether you have a filter with a valve in it or not, you're going to have some leakage.
I still find the best solution to this is a small 4" plastic funnel, that I can bend/squeeze and stick up under the filter. I attached a 18" piece of hose to the end of the filter and aim it at the oil catch pan. I rarely spill a drop.
I still find the best solution to this is a small 4" plastic funnel, that I can bend/squeeze and stick up under the filter. I attached a 18" piece of hose to the end of the filter and aim it at the oil catch pan. I rarely spill a drop.
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[quote]Originally posted by Manning:
<strong>I gave up on using a Canton/Mecca canister style filter. The anti-drainback "valve" in the CM filter is so half-assed that I always had the feeling I was dry starting in the morning (it sure sounded that way). <snip> I think the CM is best suited for use with a pre-oiler like the one CM sells (Accusump) since it seems to render the anti-drainback valve pointless.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Could you elaborate? I've always heard great reviews on the performance filters from Canton Racing. First time I've heard of a drawback.
Thanks.
<strong>I gave up on using a Canton/Mecca canister style filter. The anti-drainback "valve" in the CM filter is so half-assed that I always had the feeling I was dry starting in the morning (it sure sounded that way). <snip> I think the CM is best suited for use with a pre-oiler like the one CM sells (Accusump) since it seems to render the anti-drainback valve pointless.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Could you elaborate? I've always heard great reviews on the performance filters from Canton Racing. First time I've heard of a drawback.
Thanks.
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I could probably elaborate better with photos, but I don't have access to the company digital camera right now. Here is the deal, the anti-drainback "valve" in the CM filter housing is basically a rubber flapper gasket that fits in the filter housing at the bottom under the element. You're probable supposed to replace that gasket every time you replace the element, I don't know for sure. In any case, you can't buy the gasket seperately, you have to buy an entire reseal kit (no big deal, except your paying for the whole kit when you really only need the one piece).
But, it really doesn't matter, since the gasket doesn't last more than a couple hundred miles before it stops working as an anti-drainback valve. What seems to happen is that as the rubber gets exposed to hot oil it sets into a open position (as when oil pressure is pushing through the filter) and stays that way. Result: all the oil drains back out of your filter when you turn off the motor.
I used the taller of the two filter sizes offered by CM and as Dan pointed out, the taller the filter, the longer it takes to fill and build pressure.
I really think these filters are best used with either an Accusump or mounted vertically with the open end in the opposite orientation from our vehicles.
But, it really doesn't matter, since the gasket doesn't last more than a couple hundred miles before it stops working as an anti-drainback valve. What seems to happen is that as the rubber gets exposed to hot oil it sets into a open position (as when oil pressure is pushing through the filter) and stays that way. Result: all the oil drains back out of your filter when you turn off the motor.
I used the taller of the two filter sizes offered by CM and as Dan pointed out, the taller the filter, the longer it takes to fill and build pressure.
I really think these filters are best used with either an Accusump or mounted vertically with the open end in the opposite orientation from our vehicles.
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Oh yeah, someone gave a really cool description of how to use a plastic shopping bag to keep oil from spilling all over the place. I think it was Danno or someone like that. I used it when I removed the CM housing and it works pretty well. Maybe you can do a search or they can repost the instructions. I think the original post was in answer to a question by Michelle.