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Supercharger - who successfully done it on the N/A?

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Old 10-19-2010, 12:44 AM
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I'm sure I'll eventually slap one on my 944S, need to put the engine together first.
Since it's still 100% apart I could easily make some adjustments for future boost......
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Originally Posted by kobayashi
I've got the speedforce setup in mine. It is a Procharger P1SC for the super charger. I have found out alot of the mustang guys use this supercharger and they should be around for under $1000. Using a stock turbo intercooler. Have the MAF sensor from Vitesse. Using a piggyback on the DME to do the tuning.

There is definitely some work that goes into this whole setup. I would say you could do the setup with a turbo AFM and a map sensor. The real MAF is nice to have and I think I get better tuning with it. The PerfectPower line of products work well are are a relatively good value for use in tuning. The letripp software is pretty easy to use. I am using my MAP sensor to increase the fuel instead of using the standard fuel map. It has been working well.

The 6 rib belt has been slipping a bit at higher rpms. With the power steering belt, it would be hard to increase it to an 8 rib belt. I have not seen anyone run a cog style belt on these, but it may help for high boost applications. Keep in mind that I have turbo internals in the engine and can run higher boost.

The car is still for sale. I am putting my time into the NA for racing next year. If anyone has any questions, let me know.
why did you decide to sell the car? think a kit just like that can be pieced together cheaper? $5k is a lot man - I wouldn't mind if it was in a $3k range though
Old 10-19-2010, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 944V8inDFW
Besides a 16 Valve 3.0 Supercharged Porsche engine is way cooler than a swap!
I agree

http://www.vimeo.com/15827543

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Old 10-19-2010, 09:26 AM
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OOPS!!! I forgot Lemming is making a MONSTER right now.

Search for his Frankencar thread and be impressed.

I'm getting old and forgetful...forgive me.
Old 10-19-2010, 10:58 AM
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what is the long term drivability and dependability of a super charged 944 na motor
Old 10-19-2010, 11:29 AM
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Thirdgenbird, I know a guy by the name of Mark T (a fellow Canadian from another forum) who has very successfully supercharged his car. BUT, he built up a turbo block with all the very expensive go fast parts to get to where he is. The cost was very considerable. On the plus side, the car is very very fast and puts down I believe 380 rwhp on dyno. He is in Southern Alberta I believe. I don't have the know how to do this, I am slowly learning about my car.
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Bought the car used. Just got the supercharge setup running. I don't think it was the exact speedforce setup because it has a P1SC and not the C2 supercharger. This setup has another $2500 in MAF sensor and piggyback setup.

The 944 engines are pretty bullet proof, but you can over boost anything. At stock compression, I have heard that 8-10 psi is really high. For the lower compression, you are talking double that.
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kobayashi, what kind of belt tensioner setup are u using? running off the alternator belt? or what?
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Don't forget, you can always go the route that 928 motorsports has with it's 968 SC unit using a raising rate fuel regulator and the stock ECU. This is an old school method that works well up to around 8-10 lbs of boost. For my application, I am keeping boost below 6 lbs (maybe even going lower) since I do not want to change compression on my 16V engine.
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Yep. Running of the crankshaft pulley. It is an AC delete unit that uses the same belt as the alternator.
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then i assume yer still using the orig static tensioner. belt probably slacks up at high rpm and that's what's causing slippage. somehow need to devise a sprung tensioner...cause just tightening the static tensioner just means overloading the bearings at normal rpm's.
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Sounds like a good idea. Anyone use a tensioner for this application? It looks like I may be able to use a GM Serpentine belt tensioner.

Right now I am at about 40-45 lbs. of pressure. Did not want to go to much higher than the timing belt.
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Originally Posted by kobayashi
Sounds like a good idea. Anyone use a tensioner for this application? It looks like I may be able to use a GM Serpentine belt tensioner.
Post pics if you do this!
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Just ordered a tensioner. Only throwing $30 at it is definitely worth the shot. Let you know what happens.
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The Saab tensioner is interesting also.


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