Time for new all-season tires
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It's time for new all-season tires for my 944S2 that's a daily driver in Iowa. Trying for good performance on wet, ice, and good tread life.
Options on TireRack:
1. Yokohama AVID ENVigor (60K miles, $424.00 per set): Reviews make this sound good, but some say it's noisy and has a harsh ride.
2. Continental ExtremeContact DWS (50K miles, $384.00 per set): Reviews talk of a great ride and performance, but a few reviewers hate them.
3. Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S (45K miles, $544.00 per set): Reviews are pretty much all good. Are they worth less treadlife and higher cost for a daily driver car?
Have I missed any tires you would recommend?
thanks,
Bryan
Options on TireRack:
1. Yokohama AVID ENVigor (60K miles, $424.00 per set): Reviews make this sound good, but some say it's noisy and has a harsh ride.
2. Continental ExtremeContact DWS (50K miles, $384.00 per set): Reviews talk of a great ride and performance, but a few reviewers hate them.
3. Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S (45K miles, $544.00 per set): Reviews are pretty much all good. Are they worth less treadlife and higher cost for a daily driver car?
Have I missed any tires you would recommend?
thanks,
Bryan
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I was going to get continental's up until people on here told me not too. They aren't a very performance oriented tire supposedly. They look good and supposedly do really good in cold weather and what not.
I went with a set of Goodyear Eagle GT's they are $580 out the door at sears. But I got a $20 rebate so its not a bad deal at all.
I went with a set of Goodyear Eagle GT's they are $580 out the door at sears. But I got a $20 rebate so its not a bad deal at all.
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When my Yoko AVS's wore out I picked up (from a lister) a set of virtually new (still had the little nobbies on the them) Khumo high performance all seasons (don't remember the model off the top of my head).
I have had them on my S2 for about 5 months and like them better than the yoko's....they are much quieter.....seem to have more grip and I perceive more sidewall sitffness.....
Flip side is that I think the yoko's served me well. They were close to new (maybe a few thousand miles is my guess) when I got the car. I drove on them for 3 years including 6 DE's (yes...on all-season tires!). All total, I put about 9000 miles on them (including the track time) and they were at the point where they were still driveable but tired.
I have had them on my S2 for about 5 months and like them better than the yoko's....they are much quieter.....seem to have more grip and I perceive more sidewall sitffness.....
Flip side is that I think the yoko's served me well. They were close to new (maybe a few thousand miles is my guess) when I got the car. I drove on them for 3 years including 6 DE's (yes...on all-season tires!). All total, I put about 9000 miles on them (including the track time) and they were at the point where they were still driveable but tired.
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I had decent results with Nokian WRG2's. Good on the front, but my rears were too wide for this kind of snow. I have I think 245s on the rear, and would lose traction pretty easily even with 150 pounds of cat litter in the back. Part of that might have been my alignment though.
Edit: By decent, I mean they were very good for what they were on dry, good in rain, slush, and ice. Good in snow but take note of what I said above. For snow, you want narrow.
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Edit: By decent, I mean they were very good for what they were on dry, good in rain, slush, and ice. Good in snow but take note of what I said above. For snow, you want narrow.
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in my experience, the longer the miles the tire is rated for, the less fun they are on a sporting car.
I've always found Michelins to be nice tires, if a little spendy.
My current ride (which I bought last fall) came with some Fuzion ZRis and to my dismay, they seem quite alright. Haven't had them out in ICE yet, but in rain, dry and AX, they are much nicer than I anticipated.
I've always found Michelins to be nice tires, if a little spendy.
My current ride (which I bought last fall) came with some Fuzion ZRis and to my dismay, they seem quite alright. Haven't had them out in ICE yet, but in rain, dry and AX, they are much nicer than I anticipated.
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Also check for Bridgestones. The RE960AS is a great tire, if available in your size. Of those three, I'd say Conti. Great price, and their new line of tires look pretty good.
Personally, I use dedicated summer, and separate winter tires.
Personally, I use dedicated summer, and separate winter tires.
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I run Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Positions (215/60R15 94H) year round.
I was in Baltimore/DC this winter and we had like 4 foot+ of snow!!! (I moved in October from Rochester, NY to escape the snow!! WTF!???)
The tires preformed really well in the snow! I have driven them all Summer, and I DRIVE my car too!
They might not grip as well as a dedicated performance tire, but I my opinion that means more fun! I have learned to drift my car around corners; come into a corner HOT, Let of the Gas, Slide the BackEnd!!, get Back on the the Gas, and continue Straight with a smile!! Good Fun Times! But with that said I have never lost traction on mistake, or by surprise. I have put around 13k miles on them since November, and tread still looks great.
Just my two cents...
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I was in Baltimore/DC this winter and we had like 4 foot+ of snow!!! (I moved in October from Rochester, NY to escape the snow!! WTF!???)
The tires preformed really well in the snow! I have driven them all Summer, and I DRIVE my car too!
They might not grip as well as a dedicated performance tire, but I my opinion that means more fun! I have learned to drift my car around corners; come into a corner HOT, Let of the Gas, Slide the BackEnd!!, get Back on the the Gas, and continue Straight with a smile!! Good Fun Times! But with that said I have never lost traction on mistake, or by surprise. I have put around 13k miles on them since November, and tread still looks great.
Just my two cents...
-Pete
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This is a must-have for anyone who uses a 944 in snow.
Seriously, it costs more than 1 set of tires, and there's a potential storage issue if you don't have space. But it's cheaper than an off-road misadventure.
Seriously, it costs more than 1 set of tires, and there's a potential storage issue if you don't have space. But it's cheaper than an off-road misadventure.
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It's time for new all-season tires for my 944S2 that's a daily driver in Iowa. Trying for good performance on wet, ice, and good tread life.
Options on TireRack:
1. Yokohama AVID ENVigor (60K miles, $424.00 per set): Reviews make this sound good, but some say it's noisy and has a harsh ride.
2. Continental ExtremeContact DWS (50K miles, $384.00 per set): Reviews talk of a great ride and performance, but a few reviewers hate them.
3. Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S (45K miles, $544.00 per set): Reviews are pretty much all good. Are they worth less treadlife and higher cost for a daily driver car?
Have I missed any tires you would recommend?
thanks,
Bryan
Options on TireRack:
1. Yokohama AVID ENVigor (60K miles, $424.00 per set): Reviews make this sound good, but some say it's noisy and has a harsh ride.
2. Continental ExtremeContact DWS (50K miles, $384.00 per set): Reviews talk of a great ride and performance, but a few reviewers hate them.
3. Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S (45K miles, $544.00 per set): Reviews are pretty much all good. Are they worth less treadlife and higher cost for a daily driver car?
Have I missed any tires you would recommend?
thanks,
Bryan
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falken ZE912
those are the best all season tires imo. i used the falkens on our van and the 944, and they are great. a little noisy at higher speeds and they wear nicely, but otherwise a good tire.
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YES! Agree 100%
However - if you do not see much snow, "no-seasons" are an option. Keep in mind they will be good at absolutely nothing other than keeping the suspension from dragging on the ground. They compromise everything, full-time.
If you only have one set of rims and do not plan to swap between warm weather tires and cold weather tires - I am with theedge on this. The Nokian WRG2 is the best tire if you can only have one set.
However - if you do not see much snow, "no-seasons" are an option. Keep in mind they will be good at absolutely nothing other than keeping the suspension from dragging on the ground. They compromise everything, full-time.
If you only have one set of rims and do not plan to swap between warm weather tires and cold weather tires - I am with theedge on this. The Nokian WRG2 is the best tire if you can only have one set.
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THAT is the Khumo tire that I was talking about above.! !