Thaddeus

You just have to laugh...

The leak is at the front passenger side. Car is grounded until I can determine it's not a seal that will let oil get on the timing belt. Hoping it's the oil pan or a loose oil filter or something like that...

Cheers

Thaddeus

Levish

lol, good luck with it ... such is the life of cars that have seen 15 years of living unfortunately. Reminds me of some of my previous cars (a 85 mustang GT required lots of loving to keep running) especially when you drive em hard.

I hope that newer cars weather better though (in lieu of the more stringent tolerances and engineering).

ian

I think this is the cars way of reminding you that you should not have considered getting rid of her. Hopefully it is just a warning shot and nothing major.

Peckster

I would not be hoping it's an oil pan leak. Have you had this done before? Big bucks.

jim968

Front passenger's side? I know the 968 has an external oil cooler there (oil to air radiator) with two flex lines running out to it (from the filter adapter?). Not sure if the Turbo shares this feature, but I think it does. AFAIR, the lines are held on the engine end with a t-flange retained by one central allen bolt; if it's loose, the O-rings behind it on the lines may need to be replaced. Mine developed a steady drip there right after I bought it. Replaced the O-rings & snugged things down; it's been fine for 2 1/2 years.

The allen bolt is a real whirling bitch to reach; you'll need the right sized 3/8" drive allen-wrench-in-a-socket, a long extension, and a u-joint.

Of course, it could be one of the oil hoses, too... or maybe just a power steering leak?

Jim, ...so the old guy sees his neighbor Jones walking down the street with _two_ perfect women, one on each arm. He's really pissed now! he asks the genie, "So I get whatever I wish for, but he going to get it double, huh?" "Yes," replies the genie. "You deserve this for being such a miserable neighbor." (to be cont'd)

Thaddeus

Well, I know that a leaking oil pan is not -good- news, but it would beat leaking front seals in one respect: I could still drive the car awhile (adding oil as I went). Bad front seals? Grounded. I don't have time now to do anything to the car (just moved my home) and it would be nice to defer car stuff until spring.

Thaddeus

Bones944

My 951's oil pan leaks, enough that if it sits 2 or 3 days, I see some smoke from the crossover pipe. However I'm never more than a half quart low at oil changes. Guess it doesn't burn any. If and when I get around to rod bearings it'll get a new pan gasket anyway.

Melchior

Hey JIM986,
What was the part number for the two o-rings that you replaced for the oil cooler lines? I have been wanting to replace these but couldn't find a part number. Did you also flush the oil cooler to get rid of the possible sludge that accumulates? What was the size of the allen head that is required?
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Thaddeus

OK Jim... punchline?

jim968

David, sorry I can't answer a one of your questions; it was 2 1/2 years ago, the second week I had the car. After futzing with it for an hour, I took it my buddy / pro German car wrench. With it on a lift, it took him about 15 minutes to take the clamp part off, pull the hoses out, match the o-rings from their stock selection of metric o-rings, and put it back together. No charge. At the time, I didn't even have a diagram so I could tell what kind of seal was used.... I was a little amazed to see how simple it was when he got it apart.

Didn't flush anything.. I suspect the flow thru there keeps it pretty well cleared out. Don't recall the size of the allen wrench, but I do know it's in the Sears set of 3/8" drive allens I bought soon after. A regular L-shaped allen wrench _might_ work, but it'd be a slow operation; with the allen on a wobble joint on an extension, it should be easy; at least it was for Mark (thanks again!). Funny thing is that there was a receipt in the glovebox for this same item from less'n a year earlier, about 3K miles ...from a dealership, no less! ISTR an hour's labor.. and they didn't get it right.
Jim, freakin' rip-off artists!

Thaddeus

Hm.... I don't get it.

jim968

Punchline? there is no punchline..."

Or, "Surely you can guess the rest of the story."

How about: The guy gets up the next morning, and says to the genie, "My third wish is that you remove _one_ of my *********."

Jim, ducking the barrage of rotten fruit....

Hans

[quote]...neighbor Jones walking down the street with _two_ perfect women, one on each arm...
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This implies two Mothers_in_law (on whatever basis, legal or not).
Then the old guy should consider himself VERY lucky
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TakeCare

EDIT:
968 "O" ring seals: 900 331 022 40
Bolt is cheese head M8x25

Early 951 has some sort of flared connection, later ones (with larger oil cooler) have same seals on the cooler body connection, flares on the engine side.
TakeCare

Robby

[quote]Originally posted by Bones944:My 951's oil pan leaks, enough that if it sits 2 or 3 days, I see some smoke from the crossover pipe. However I'm never more than a half quart low at oil changes. Guess it doesn't burn any. If and when I get around to rod bearings it'll get a new pan gasket anyway<hr></blockquote>

Mine does the same thing, only it smokes A LOT! For the first few minutes anyway- it's getting worse, and I'm not sure that it's only coming from the crossover pipe. Anyway, it did it last summer, but not very bad at all in the winter- hopefully it'll pull through this winter alright. I'm planning a rebuild b/c of it, as my mechanic says oil pan seals are a major job, and I should go ahead and replace rod bearings while in there, of course, then I should do the rings to. I'm thinking I may as well do chips and a larger turbo then. Why not a new or rebuilt tranny w/taller 5th, or better, a 968 tranny w/custom 3-6, and while I'm at it.... You can see where all this is leading...

elf89

Alternate punchline that might not be as painful...

"Genie, I want you to scare me half to death!"