MachSchnell

After trying Back to Black, and various other silicone products on my sun discolored wing, I found that Vinylex totally restored my rear wing...it's still pitted and funny looking with some odd designs, but at least it's all the right color black, and uniform in it's coloring. It does tend to attract dirt, but it looks SO much better than before. Now I just have to figure out what to do with the horribly delaminated window that looks even worse since I had it tinted to keep the ugly Florida sun from turning my car into an oven. I am a bit leery of what it might do to paint as it washes off, but it seems to be pretty durable (better than the near perpetual rainbow the back to black left) and doesn't seem to be leaving any residue on the paint thus far.

Dave in Chicago

Vinylex on the spoiler rocks. First time may require a few applications over a couple of weeks, but mine too came out black as if new.

Only drawback is that it does stay a bit greasy. Can be a hassle when washing/drying the car as any Vinylex on the cloth will smear all over the paint and look nasty.

JimV8

Jason, when you say 'horribly delaminate' are you referring to the film lifting? If so and you have to take it off there is an easy way to do that. Spray the film with window cleaner and cover the film with plastic film. Leave it for 20 mins. or so. Re-spray again and cover. its best to leave it in the hot sun. The idea is to let the cleaner penetrate the film to the adhesive, then it just comes off in a sheet.

Damian in NJ

Vinylex will work-somewhat. Want it to look great? Buy the Surflex black colorant (carcareonline has it), apply per directions, then compare. Use the Surflex on the black rubber trim around the mirrors, bumper rubber, etc. Trust me, trust me!

2+2

Thanks for the tips guys...it is amazing how the same issues come up....

JIM7, so if you take that "film" off, is there any negative effects? What is that film's function anyway? Also, what do you mean by "cover the film with plastic film"?

I have been wanting to tint my windows but have been delaying it until I can figure out what to do about the "delamination"....

JimV8

Are we discussing tint thats existing ?

JimV8

Sorry, next Q. please explain delamination.

2+2

On second read, I am not sure if Jason is referring to tinting delamination or a small black strip at the top of the rear hatch glass that is separating from the glass. I am referring to the black strip at the top of the rear hatch glass....

JimV8

2+2, on my car the strip is painted and the paint has crumbled off along most of the edge, i was wondering also how to get that off so i could tint to the edges.

Kevin Baker

Delaminating refers to the two pieces of molded glass that form the rear hatch (with plastic inbetween). After years of closing "shock" and the twisting of the new gas shocks, the two pieces of glass will begin to seperate leaving what looks like tint bubbles at the top.

MachSchnell

Kevin is right...unless I'm mistaken, but I'm used to seeing it on older Ferraris...the two 'panes' separate and it looks like a bubble has formed. I will have to look closer and see if this isn't just a black strip issue, but I had just assumed it was delamination. Upon closer inspection I will update the problem. Is delamination a serious issue with these cars, or am I more likely seeing the result of a bad black film up there?

JimV8

The best way to remove the edge is with a razor scraper. Don't use it on dry glass though. Wet the glass with a water soap mix. Baby shampoo or dishwash liquid is good. The idea is to lube the glass. I have to do this as well. I expect I'll put a strip of blackout film at the edges and go with a 20 level film on the hatch.

2+2

I didnt realize there was two panes on the hatch. I was referring to the blackout film at the top of the hatch which on my car, has begun to separate from the glass and small pieces are starting to flake off.....
Jim 7 seems to have the right idea of removing this film and tinting all of it...

But what function did this film serve and is there any negatives to cutting it off?

JimV8

I think its just cosmetic to hide the edges.

Kevin Baker

I have heard that you can have the glass re-laminated at glass shops.