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03-18-2003, 10:55 PM

Luke

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Old school and a new alternative

The Cup Car motorsport setup was designed in 1985. It hasn't changed.

Here's a look at an AWESOME alternative.

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similar tube to cup car shock</li>
oe Boge shock</li>
Moriss/bilstein motorsport (924/44/68)</li>
same w/o spring</li>
Moriss steel 944 strut ( owned by Van Stensin *rennlister* )</li>

The Moriss/Bilstein motorsport setup looks like an AMAZING alternative to the cup car setup.
Here's is a short list of Pro's

PRO's</li>
Front strut tube/tabs are stronger than cup kit</li>
They are IT legal (unlike thread cup setups</li>
Infinite number of valvings avalible-from street to full out race.</li>
the Rears are owner servicable!</li>
Spherical bearings- not rubber like the cup car's</li>
Uses TRUE Bilstein motorsport parts that were designed in 2003-not 1985</li>
Uses The SAME valving sytem as the 996 GT3R HOW cool is THAT!!! </li>

<img src="http://members.rennlist.com/luke/moriss2.JPG" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://members.rennlist.com/luke/moriss1.JPG" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://members.rennlist.com/luke/moriss5.JPG" alt=" - " />You can clearly see how the newer style Bilstein tubes are MADE for motorsports!- They dont even look like their street shocks. look at the weak looking joints on the bushing carrier for the cup tubes!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> I am VERY interested in this setup, I got a quote....... this makes it even better!.........
the cup kits go for $1,585 right now............ this new Moriss kit $1,595.

Here's the full quote i received from Evan

Porsche 944 (street/track)

36mm Inverted Bilstein damper configured to Moriss specifications.</li>
CAD-plated steel body with c-clip groove.</li>
Anodized Aluminum coil-over sleeve and spring seats for 2.50" ID race spring.</li>
Micro-cellular bump stop.
----------------------$368.79ea. $737.59(front)

46mm Inverted Bilstein SN series steel shock with c-clip groove hand built by Moriss.</li>
Metric standoff's with CAD plated coil-over adapter lower fastener.</li>
Annodized Aluminum coil-over sleeve and spring seats for 2.50" ID race spring.</li>
Micro-cellular bump stop.
-----------------------$298.78ea. $597.57(rear)

Eibach ERS race spring</li>
0900.250.0400 (400lbs/in rate) $65.00ea. $130.00(front)</li>
0800.250.0300 (300lbs/in rate) $65.00ea. $130.00(rear) With torsion bar in rear</li>
0800.250.0600 (600lbs/in rate) With-out torsion bar

------------Total (less shipping) $1,595.16</li>

Porsche 944 (cup kit)Bilstein 36mm inverted mono-tube steel threaded body coil-over struts.
Front Struts 600/180 valving
$420.12ea. $840.24(front)
Bilstein 46mm mono-tube steel threaded body coil-over shocks.
Rear coil-over shocks 565/218 valving
$242.84ea. $485.68(rear)
Springs $130-front
$130-rear
Total Concept 3 (less shipping) $1,585.92
If you have any technical questions, Moriss' tech GURU "Harry Larry" takes tech questions all the time during regular business hours at 1-586-873-2984

Evan can be reached at-

248.420.3084 -cell
evanmoen@morissdampers.com
<a href="http://www.morissdampers.com" target="_blank">www.morissdampers.com</a>

--It seems like a no-brainer to me...... I mean, 20 year old cup shocks, or Modern, tougher dampers that share parts with the 996GT3R!!!!

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03-19-2003, 07:24 AM

Luke

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does anybody have comments on their cup setup?

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03-19-2003, 10:21 AM

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Luke,

This looks like exactly what I am looking for. I do have a couple of question.

1. The Bilstein’s rears look as if there is a valve on them, is this for adjustability? If so is this an air or some kind of oil setup.

2. This car is mainly for street but will see DE and AutoX when complete. Which setup of the three Bilstein’s would you recommend

3. If the shock is indeed adjustable with this valve, do you know of any set up to do this from within the car? Like having a firm, extra firm, insanely firm settings switch? Just a thought.

4. I am attempting to eliminate my torsion bars with a setup like this. Would you recommend any enforcement of the shock mount in the rear before attempting this?

Thanks in advance.
TaboII

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03-19-2003, 02:55 PM

Larry Parker

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1. The vavle on the bottom is for gasing the dampres up.

2. This setup is so good because it can vavled for the street/auto-x and when it comes down to full blown racing one day they can be revalved easyly

3.Not currently

4. Yes you can remove your t-bars and NO i would not reinforce you stock mounting points (its not needed)

The setup is not adjustable but I would rather
have a GOOD REPEATABLE non adjustable stup than a poor non adjustable unit.........

But the bilstiens can be made adjustable for
around 600.00 more for the set

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