OT: Military & College?
02-24-2003, 04:26 PM
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Yeah actually I was looking at the two six week sessions over summer. That would be perfect for going to school where I am as well. Right now I'm a biology major and I was thinking of something with research. As far as what I'd like to do in the future, I'm open to a lot of things right now. And as far as difficulty goes, the challenge is what I'm really looking for.
If any of ya wanna email me hit me up at jruggiero@csus.edu, I'd love to hear what you have to say
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If any of ya wanna email me hit me up at jruggiero@csus.edu, I'd love to hear what you have to say
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02-24-2003, 04:57 PM
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I have a good friend that just finished college and joined the Navy. This was a pretty good deal for him. The Navy paid for school (University of California, San Diego), and gave him a stipend every month. All he had to do was get all B's or better, which he did. Once in a while he had to go to the base for some exercise, which he actually liked to do. He finished his degree in Physics and then they sent him to Nuke school. So, now he's some sort of Nuclear officer. He said that they let him pick what sort of boat he was going to be on (he chose some sub that delivers marines or something like that). He chose this route because apparently most all sub captains started out as nuke engineers, and thats the way he wanted to go. I have no idea how it works with the Marines, but in his situation, the Navy worked out well for him.
On a non-techology side, I have a friend that had the Navy pay for him to go to Optomitry school. He has one year left in school, but he is getting his education for a good price. One cool thing is that on Sept. 11, they called him in to have him provide basic eye care for firefighters and other emergency personel. So he was helping out behind the scenes by making sure the dust and other air borne debris wasn't a problem for the emergency workers.
I interviewed for a job at SpaWar - a defense contractor that deals with naval communication systems and some space military stuff... seemed pretty interesting to me. Personally, I'd rather use my education (as an Electrical Engineer) to design and build things that make the guys with the bigger ***** fight better - I think I'd have a better contrabution to the cause that way. US military supremicy comes from superior technology, in my opinion. Behind a great army there needs to be a great "war machine" - for the development and production of better weapons.
That's just my uninformed $0.02. Perhaps you should sit down with a recruiter and
On a non-techology side, I have a friend that had the Navy pay for him to go to Optomitry school. He has one year left in school, but he is getting his education for a good price. One cool thing is that on Sept. 11, they called him in to have him provide basic eye care for firefighters and other emergency personel. So he was helping out behind the scenes by making sure the dust and other air borne debris wasn't a problem for the emergency workers.
I interviewed for a job at SpaWar - a defense contractor that deals with naval communication systems and some space military stuff... seemed pretty interesting to me. Personally, I'd rather use my education (as an Electrical Engineer) to design and build things that make the guys with the bigger ***** fight better - I think I'd have a better contrabution to the cause that way. US military supremicy comes from superior technology, in my opinion. Behind a great army there needs to be a great "war machine" - for the development and production of better weapons.
That's just my uninformed $0.02. Perhaps you should sit down with a recruiter and
02-24-2003, 05:15 PM
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Keeping in mind of course that the Marines have all of the systems that the other branches have, short of Big Bombers and Big ships. The skills you can learn inthe Marines are the same ones you can learn in the other branches. Personally I was a fire control technician working on small missles, artillery sights and laser rangefinders and designators. Did help quite a bit in the civillian world.
They wouldn't let me in the Army or Air force cuz my parents were married.
They wouldn't let me in the Army or Air force cuz my parents were married.
02-24-2003, 05:59 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Joe944:
<strong>Yeah I definitely plan on talking with a recruiter. I'm just looking for peoples stories and experiences right now </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">First absolute rule, even before "Never volunteer for anything," is "Don't believe _anything_ the recruiter tells you." Yes, seriously. No joke. No bull. They will lie to you, and smile while doing so. Really.
Even if you get it in writing, the odds are that there will be some weasel words included in the fine print that let them use you how & where they need you.
Jim, "The Navy! It's not just an adventure, it's a f&%kin' job!"
<strong>Yeah I definitely plan on talking with a recruiter. I'm just looking for peoples stories and experiences right now
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">First absolute rule, even before "Never volunteer for anything," is "Don't believe _anything_ the recruiter tells you." Yes, seriously. No joke. No bull. They will lie to you, and smile while doing so. Really.Even if you get it in writing, the odds are that there will be some weasel words included in the fine print that let them use you how & where they need you.
Jim, "The Navy! It's not just an adventure, it's a f&%kin' job!"
02-24-2003, 06:09 PM
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Disregard what the jarheads have said soldier. The United States Army is the outfit you'll wanna' be associated with. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> But seriously, be very careful in dealing with any recruiter that they KNOW what sort of field you're interested in, and place you in an MOS related to that field. Otherwise the time you spend in the service, other than being the defining period in your life, as it was mine and I'm sure many others here, may not be the career track enhancement you might have wished. I, for instance, have yet to find much of a market for the skills I honed as an 11C40,,Infantry Indirect Fire Crewman. And I was so good at it. 
02-24-2003, 08:11 PM
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LOL @ Sid - I hadn't heard that one yet Anyway, I agree with Jim... the tech stuff is probably heavily slanted in the Air Force/Navy favor, and of those two, I believe the Air Force takes it home in the area of communications integration. The Air and Space world (that is dominated by the Air Force) of the US military relies on technology moreso than any other field - and if you are in those areas, you're dealing with technological applications in a degree unmatched by the other services. These aren't my opinions - these are numbers.
BTW, I'm not trying to get you to join the Air Force, I'm just contradicting Mr. Vicious and his punk-rock lyrics <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
I wouldn't talk to a recruiter. They are interested in, well, recruiting you. I won't say that they are going to lie... but they are going to attempt to get you to do things that may not be in your best interest.
That having been said, talk to one of the officers at the ROTC detachment on your campus. If you don't have a detachment (or batallion or whatever) on your campus, then take a trip to one that does. In general, the ROTC people are going to have less of a vested interest in snapping you up b/c their individual performance isn't based necessarily on how many they manage to cycle through.
If you go to a recruiter, they are going to try to make you sign up on the spot and that may not necessarily be what you want to do.
I guess my best advice would be, again, to approach it from the side and see if the military really looks like something you want to get into.
Micah
Anyway, I agree with Jim... the tech stuff is probably heavily slanted in the Air Force/Navy favor, and of those two, I believe the Air Force takes it home in the area of communications integration. The Air and Space world (that is dominated by the Air Force) of the US military relies on technology moreso than any other field - and if you are in those areas, you're dealing with technological applications in a degree unmatched by the other services. These aren't my opinions - these are numbers.BTW, I'm not trying to get you to join the Air Force, I'm just contradicting Mr. Vicious and his punk-rock lyrics <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
I wouldn't talk to a recruiter. They are interested in, well, recruiting you. I won't say that they are going to lie... but they are going to attempt to get you to do things that may not be in your best interest.
That having been said, talk to one of the officers at the ROTC detachment on your campus. If you don't have a detachment (or batallion or whatever) on your campus, then take a trip to one that does. In general, the ROTC people are going to have less of a vested interest in snapping you up b/c their individual performance isn't based necessarily on how many they manage to cycle through.
If you go to a recruiter, they are going to try to make you sign up on the spot and that may not necessarily be what you want to do.
I guess my best advice would be, again, to approach it from the side and see if the military really looks like something you want to get into.
Micah
02-24-2003, 10:22 PM
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Seriously, if you like "busy" even in peaceful (to everyone else) times, as well as high tech, don't rule out the Coast Guard. Small, but dedicated, well trained, and pretty much always busy. BTW..in WWII..Who do you think ferried the Marines to all of them nice Pacific Islands and got shelled coming AND going?
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02-24-2003, 10:23 PM
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You want to learn how to press buttons join the Air Force.
You want to learn how to dig Latrines, join the army.
You into seaman join the navy.
You want to get up way to fricking early, have people yell and get spittle in your face, join the Corps.
You want to learn how to dig Latrines, join the army.
You into seaman join the navy.
You want to get up way to fricking early, have people yell and get spittle in your face, join the Corps.
02-25-2003, 02:55 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by SidViscous:
<strong>You want to learn how to press buttons join the Air Force.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Or if you want a job that is more likely to have civilian applications join the Air Force or Navy. I used the Air Force to my advantage, gained 20 years experience and then got a civilian job doing the same thing. However, I love what I do. A college degree is one thing but experience is another.
On another note the Air Force is the smartest of the services- We send our officers into combat <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> .
<strong>You want to learn how to press buttons join the Air Force.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Or if you want a job that is more likely to have civilian applications join the Air Force or Navy. I used the Air Force to my advantage, gained 20 years experience and then got a civilian job doing the same thing. However, I love what I do. A college degree is one thing but experience is another.
On another note the Air Force is the smartest of the services- We send our officers into combat <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> .
02-25-2003, 03:11 AM
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Sid isn't that far off with his joke there. Also, if you want to stay in shape, join the army or marines. If you want to get a little tubby around the middle and get a waiver, join the AF or navy.
Right also about not listening to the recruiter. The only thing that you are guarenteed is to get payed and to have health insureance, which is sort of flakey sometimes. They won't let you die though.
Also, someone mentioned that all of the branches have the same jobs, not true. They don't even have my real job in the Army or Marines. They break it up into 2 or 3 jobs in order as mentioned. I'm not a button pusher, I do nothing, but when I do something it affects a lot of people. If marines are jarheads, what is the army called again?
Right also about not listening to the recruiter. The only thing that you are guarenteed is to get payed and to have health insureance, which is sort of flakey sometimes. They won't let you die though.
Also, someone mentioned that all of the branches have the same jobs, not true. They don't even have my real job in the Army or Marines. They break it up into 2 or 3 jobs in order as mentioned. I'm not a button pusher, I do nothing, but when I do something it affects a lot of people. If marines are jarheads, what is the army called again?
02-25-2003, 04:49 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by SidViscous:
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You into seaman join the navy.
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And don't make me tell everyone on this board why the Navy keeps Marines aboard ship.
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You into seaman join the navy.
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And don't make me tell everyone on this board why the Navy keeps Marines aboard ship.
02-25-2003, 07:49 PM
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shame on you SidViscous! <img border="0" alt="[nono]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" />
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"> Just to make a point. Marines are not soldiers. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">right.... they're usually convicted felons involuntarily called in to the Marine Corps.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Soldiers wear baseball caps, diddy bop with thier hands in thier pocket, usually only fire from full cover and have a tendency to give up hilltops that good Marines captured.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Correct again, The hilltop is the only thing left standing after the Marines roll through, including the Marines.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">They also call thier rifle a gun.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Not true, we give them names like Cindy and Susie.
lol j/k all! This is not intended to create an army/marines rennlist war, any branch that you decide to enter if you do will treat you just fine. It just depends on how mentally damaged you want to be when you get out.
BTW, I was offered a full year off from regular duty to attend school at the local college. Of course it was a re-enlistment incentive but there are other options to attend school while on active duty none the less. I have seen folks enter with no college and leave with bachelors degrees in four years. It just depends on how much you can juggle the two.
Your Military training (MOS) will also provide you with some college credits, the more technical field you choose in the service obviously dictates that. For instance I am a 31F, which is a network switching systems OP/MAINT. I think it was roundabout 20 credit hours.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"> Just to make a point. Marines are not soldiers. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">right.... they're usually convicted felons involuntarily called in to the Marine Corps.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Soldiers wear baseball caps, diddy bop with thier hands in thier pocket, usually only fire from full cover and have a tendency to give up hilltops that good Marines captured.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Correct again, The hilltop is the only thing left standing after the Marines roll through, including the Marines.
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">They also call thier rifle a gun.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Not true, we give them names like Cindy and Susie.
lol j/k all! This is not intended to create an army/marines rennlist war, any branch that you decide to enter if you do will treat you just fine. It just depends on how mentally damaged you want to be when you get out.
BTW, I was offered a full year off from regular duty to attend school at the local college. Of course it was a re-enlistment incentive but there are other options to attend school while on active duty none the less. I have seen folks enter with no college and leave with bachelors degrees in four years. It just depends on how much you can juggle the two.
Your Military training (MOS) will also provide you with some college credits, the more technical field you choose in the service obviously dictates that. For instance I am a 31F, which is a network switching systems OP/MAINT. I think it was roundabout 20 credit hours.
02-26-2003, 03:04 AM
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my opinion is just that...
background..6 years active with the worlds greatest navy. currently in naval special warfare.
stay in school, or pick up an officer program that uncle pays the tab for your college. join the air force or navy or if you join the army or marines, choose a field that crosses to civilian jobs. dont be a bullet sponge. choose a field that gives re-enlistment bonuses, and has a great rate of advancement. if you want help with navy jobs, email me off board at krm9442hotmail.com and i can give you some advice from a straight shooter!!!
kyle
background..6 years active with the worlds greatest navy. currently in naval special warfare.
stay in school, or pick up an officer program that uncle pays the tab for your college. join the air force or navy or if you join the army or marines, choose a field that crosses to civilian jobs. dont be a bullet sponge. choose a field that gives re-enlistment bonuses, and has a great rate of advancement. if you want help with navy jobs, email me off board at krm9442hotmail.com and i can give you some advice from a straight shooter!!!
kyle
