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91 944S2 value (engine locked ?)

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Old 11-01-2009, 03:28 PM
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I got the report on the car,
title renewed in 96, 99, 2000, 09. car used to be originally in Florida, after 2000 it went to Tennessee, then in Texas around 2007-2008.

odometer reading last reported in 99, with 118,256 miles.

Accident reports,
2000, rear ended
2003, accident left front (Moderate damage )

No history of maintenace or repairs done at the dealer,
Old 11-01-2009, 04:45 PM
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here's an S2 new listing that i assume runs with 265,000 miles @ $3,377.00

don't know how long the link will hold up for

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...5&aff=national
Old 11-01-2009, 04:51 PM
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I would buy something from a private owner before I'd buy ANYTHING from "mike's pre-owned superstore" !

That said...if it was in a few accidents I would be very careful !

THen again...if it does have LSD and/or M03 suspension as Tom mentioned (and if the parts are all still on the car)...it's probably still worth $2000.00.

Heck...you could sell the hoop-spoiler and the LSD trans and break even ....never mind the suspension......that is IF you wound up having to part it.

If it's LSD, I'd make the guy a low-ball offer for like $1500 cash and see what happens.
Old 11-01-2009, 05:45 PM
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Everyone wants these old 944s off their lots for some reason... So, my guess is that this S2 is gonna be gone fast... but in the case of any 944 nowadays, I think you can buy one anywhere and still have pretty much the same stuff, good, bad and ugly going on. Especially since you are dealing with previous owners who usually, have kept the cars up well, but are now moving on... but the silver lining -- if there is one, is that we are not talking big-money cars anymore, cept for the upkeep, of course.
Old 11-02-2009, 04:19 AM
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Options for this VIN:

M418 SIDE MOLDINGS
M425 REAR WINDOW WIPER
M454 CRUISE CONTROL
M490 HiFi SOUND SYSTEM
M494 ADDITIONAL AMPLIFIER
I598 INSIGNIA 16 VENTILER
M650 REMOVEABLE SUN ROOF
M691 CD PLAYER CD02 WITH RADIO
M946 SEAT COVERS FRONT - LEATHER/LEATHER/LEATHERETTE
Old 11-02-2009, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Fraq
Options for this VIN:

M418 SIDE MOLDINGS
M425 REAR WINDOW WIPER
M454 CRUISE CONTROL
M490 HiFi SOUND SYSTEM
M494 ADDITIONAL AMPLIFIER
I598 INSIGNIA 16 VENTILER
M650 REMOVEABLE SUN ROOF
M691 CD PLAYER CD02 WITH RADIO
M946 SEAT COVERS FRONT - LEATHER/LEATHER/LEATHERETTE
The only option that may have cost $ is the leather and maybe the CD. everything else was standard in 90, so i think it was standard in 91.
Old 11-02-2009, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 944S2NUT
From what I have understand the 944S has a cam chain issue. Being mounted in a weak spot it breaks off with ease. Most S owners end up putting an 8valver in the old S model.
Nah. The 16v heads have been improved a couple times but the tensioner does not come off unless the pad wears out or falls apart first. The chain will wear and stretch but that's true of all the 16v 944 and 32v 928, and the 968. Same chain. Not a big deal. Change it when you do the valve guides and get the cams rebuilt if they are really worn.

And few 944S cars are probably converted to 8V due to the many differences in ECU, intake, bellhousing, flywheel, etc. It'd be way easier to put an S2 motor in an S than an 8v.

Maybe it has happened but it's more likely the cars purported to be 944S with an 8V swap are actually 8V 944's with some badge-engineering.

-Joel.
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I will go look at the car this Saturday.
as for 8 valve engines, There is an 87 and an 88 944 that have the 8 valve engine in them, I dont remember if they run or not.

do you guys change the chain with factory Porsche ones or after market ones ?
Old 11-02-2009, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jfrahm
Nah. The 16v heads have been improved a couple times but the tensioner does not come off unless the pad wears out or falls apart first. The chain will wear and stretch but that's true of all the 16v 944 and 32v 928, and the 968. Same chain. Not a big deal. Change it when you do the valve guides and get the cams rebuilt if they are really worn.

And few 944S cars are probably converted to 8V due to the many differences in ECU, intake, bellhousing, flywheel, etc. It'd be way easier to put an S2 motor in an S than an 8v.

Maybe it has happened but it's more likely the cars purported to be 944S with an 8V swap are actually 8V 944's with some badge-engineering.

-Joel.
I just saying what I saw and read on many porsche sites including this one. The S was a pretty unreliable car. The S2, not being biased, was prolly the best 944 produced aside from the 968. Having learned from a few mistakes that had gone into the S model. Don't get me wrong! I love the S model and every other 944 out there. Having basically owned 4 of them. I am currently housing a 88 944 with a wet direct port nitrous kit, sitting in my driveway, soon to see the road. It's a quite a cool setup actually, flip the switch purge the system and the horn becomes the ingnite button
We plan on either doing the martini or the gulf theme to it maybe next summer. Have to see how my house renos go for free time.
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Originally Posted by 944S2NUT
I just saying what I saw and read on many porsche sites including this one.
Ahh. Must be correct then.
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Just an update,

I did not buy the car, But someone else did and did a beautiful LS1 swap, turns out that the engine stopped working when the owner was trying to pass a 911 in the race track. I went saw it today because the new owner wanted to sell the old 91 S2 engine for only $400. He had taken the head off and apparently the fuel had washed the cylinder walls and they were gauged up pretty bad by the rings, I was not sure if the engine could even be turned easily with the walls like that, all 4 cylinders were damaged and needed to be re bored or Nikasil coated. With the way the walls looked I would not doubt that the pistons were damaged too. The head looked pretty good, seemed like someone did a mild port job to it. I didn't buy the engine due to the cylinder wall condition, wasn't looking for another big project engine at this time.
Glad it did not get parted out.



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