Turbo Charging the NA
#1
Turbo Charging the NA
This is probably a rediculous idea, but would like to hear if any of you more serious motor heads have considered buying a wrecked Turbo and using the parts to convert an NA... Thinking about my next project. What do ya spose I could buy a wrecked 944T for? $2000? I know it wouldn't be worth as much as a real turbo but this wouldn't be about resale. Hmmm thinking [finger tapping tap tap tap ...]
#5
F18, the answer you will hear most is sell the na and get a turbo. If you dont want to do that then I would suggest you call anderson motorwerks and have them build you one. Ive heared great things about them.
#6
Well, if you buy a wrecked 951, you can slowly transfer all the parts over. Most important is the entire drivetrain (engine, torque-tube, tranny) as well as all the electronics. Then you can move the suspension and brakes over later. The idea is to be complete. That is, take the entire engine with everything connected to it including all hoses, wires, etc. and stick it in the NA. Same thing with the suspension. Don't take just struts. Take the struts, brakes, A-arms as a complete unit.
#7
Give John Anderson a call at 619-562-0180
Talk with him about doing this. Its a MUCH simpler conversion then everyone makes it out to be. People just bash the idea because NO ONE HAS EVER TRIED IT....
SHAUN
Talk with him about doing this. Its a MUCH simpler conversion then everyone makes it out to be. People just bash the idea because NO ONE HAS EVER TRIED IT....
SHAUN
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#8
Danno has described exactly what I'm thinking. This is just a dream sort of idea at this stage but I agree with Shaun in that this is do-able. I'm much more interested in building a 951 than in buying one and I suppose for most thats pretty hard to understand. I once rebuilt a wrecked 69 Vette, it took me 14 months (everyday) and most of my money. I loved every minute of it too. Much later, I bought a 77 Vette. In looking back on the two cars; with the first, I had a great time, working through each of the problems, talking to people about what to do next or how to best proceed. Scrounging for parts. Walking through the junkyards of southern Ca. I met a lot of people, even my neighbors who I might not have ever gotten to know, came by every couple of days to see how things were going. In short it was a great experience and what a great finished project for a 22 year old kid. With the 77, it was pretty much perfect when I bought it and it was nice to cruise around in but just not the same. I sold it after only a few months. Does this make any sense?
Now, does anybody have a wrecked 951 for sale? Probably needs to be within about 600 miles of StLouis. ...Bruce
Now, does anybody have a wrecked 951 for sale? Probably needs to be within about 600 miles of StLouis. ...Bruce
#9
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by ringo951:
<strong>Wouldn't it be cheaper to sell the N/A and just buy a 951.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Ringo, I'm glad to see you like my car! Seeing it in your avatar took me by surprise for a minute.
<strong>Wouldn't it be cheaper to sell the N/A and just buy a 951.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Ringo, I'm glad to see you like my car! Seeing it in your avatar took me by surprise for a minute.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by F18Rep:
<strong>Danno has described exactly what I'm thinking. This is just a dream sort of idea at this stage but I agree with Shaun in that this is do-able. I'm much more interested in building a 951 than in buying one and I suppose for most thats pretty hard to understand. I once rebuilt a wrecked 69 Vette, it took me 14 months (everyday) and most of my money. I loved every minute of it too. Much later, I bought a 77 Vette. In looking back on the two cars; with the first, I had a great time, working through each of the problems, talking to people about what to do next or how to best proceed. Scrounging for parts. Walking through the junkyards of southern Ca. I met a lot of people, even my neighbors who I might not have ever gotten to know, came by every couple of days to see how things were going. In short it was a great experience and what a great finished project for a 22 year old kid. With the 77, it was pretty much perfect when I bought it and it was nice to cruise around in but just not the same. I sold it after only a few months. Does this make any sense?
Now, does anybody have a wrecked 951 for sale? Probably needs to be within about 600 miles of StLouis. ...Bruce</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">to me this makes perfect sense. i like to have a hand in everything that i own. i want to be able to say that the car you see is at least partly because of my efforts. i enjoy turning a wrench to push the car that much closer to being in perfect shape. in this day and age where alot of people (both sexes) can't change a tire or check their oil, i'm proud to be able to handle my own work (with alot to learn still).
<strong>Danno has described exactly what I'm thinking. This is just a dream sort of idea at this stage but I agree with Shaun in that this is do-able. I'm much more interested in building a 951 than in buying one and I suppose for most thats pretty hard to understand. I once rebuilt a wrecked 69 Vette, it took me 14 months (everyday) and most of my money. I loved every minute of it too. Much later, I bought a 77 Vette. In looking back on the two cars; with the first, I had a great time, working through each of the problems, talking to people about what to do next or how to best proceed. Scrounging for parts. Walking through the junkyards of southern Ca. I met a lot of people, even my neighbors who I might not have ever gotten to know, came by every couple of days to see how things were going. In short it was a great experience and what a great finished project for a 22 year old kid. With the 77, it was pretty much perfect when I bought it and it was nice to cruise around in but just not the same. I sold it after only a few months. Does this make any sense?
Now, does anybody have a wrecked 951 for sale? Probably needs to be within about 600 miles of StLouis. ...Bruce</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">to me this makes perfect sense. i like to have a hand in everything that i own. i want to be able to say that the car you see is at least partly because of my efforts. i enjoy turning a wrench to push the car that much closer to being in perfect shape. in this day and age where alot of people (both sexes) can't change a tire or check their oil, i'm proud to be able to handle my own work (with alot to learn still).
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by dualblade:
<strong>i'm proud to be able to handle my own work (with alot to learn still).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">i'll second that!
<strong>i'm proud to be able to handle my own work (with alot to learn still).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">i'll second that!
#13
There is a guy here in Dearborn, mi that is parting out a Turbo, he is asking $1995 for the engine complete, 72k on it and new belts and waterpump, I talked to him and he said he has had 10 44s and still has 5 of them, the car is hit in the back. If you want I can try to find his number for you.
#14
I would recommend to get the complete car that is available in Dearborn, instead of just the engine. You'll want all of the drivetrain, plus the wiring harness, both computers, etc. Plus the advantage to having a whole parts car is the ability to get all of the nagging little pieces that you invariably need during a swap like this.
Seriously consider what SHAUN said. John Anderson has been doing some nice work.
Tifo
Seriously consider what SHAUN said. John Anderson has been doing some nice work.
Tifo
#15
I'm doing the 951 swap currently. I have an 88 944 N/A and all the bolt holes are in place for the turbo equipment. It seems to be an easy swap so far, just make sure you think of everything like fuel pump, trans,guage cluster. I'm just running an external boost guage on the N/A cluster. The after run relay and circutry for the turbo water pump is the hardest thing, and it's easy once you figure out the wiring. Good luck
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