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HELP !!! ...IMPOSSIBLY TIGHT crank pulley bolt

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Old 06-24-2002 | 05:33 PM
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Angry HELP !!! ...IMPOSSIBLY TIGHT crank pulley bolt

I've got a 1/2" flex bar and using a section of my jack handle for leverage and still no dice. I'm about to flip the car off the freakin' jack stands !!

Anybody else dealt with this problem? Any ideas? PLEASE... Will heating the bolt work?
Old 06-24-2002 | 05:38 PM
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I used a 3' pipe slipped over my craftsman 1/2" drive socket wrench. I be an impact wrench would work too, if you could get it in there. Removing the cooling fans gives you more space to work with.
Old 06-24-2002 | 05:40 PM
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Try using some type of chemical to soak in a bit.

I forget the name of the product, but you can check the shelves at any auto store. It might help.
Old 06-24-2002 | 05:48 PM
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tabor

already got the rad/fans off BTW and i've soaked it in penetrant. Do you think part of the problem might be with the flex bar? I used it before with success on my n/a. I really havent tried putting the pipe over the ratchet handle since its so much shorter -but maybe thats the key, since it wont 'give' like the bar has been doing.
Damn, that things tight.

I'll give it a shot with the ratchet handle/pipe.
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Old 06-24-2002 | 06:14 PM
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First time I had to break the crank pulley bolt, I slipped my jack handle over my 1/2" drive breaker bar. It was still a SOB. Keep at it. You might try some PB Blaster, best penetrating oil I have found.

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Old 06-24-2002 | 06:17 PM
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Some boneheads put red loctite on the crank bolts! If you are removing the engine anyway, just take it out and remove it with an impact wrench then.
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OK, got a longer 5/16" socket from a neighbor since my 24mm was too short to give me a good 90 degree angle on the bolt (and my extension was too long). This time i did use the 1/2" ratchet handle and both pieces of my jack handle and i finally GOT IT !!

Cruise-
youre right on -threadlock all over the threads!! Jeez...is that stuff really necessary for this bolt or is that a failsafe for not having a torque wrench!?

Riff-
guess thats what Johnk944 was talking about -PB Blaster. I will be getting some next time out. It sounds like good stuff.

BTW -when i bought my 1/2" 'breaker bar' there was some misunderstanding: I asked for a breaker bar but suppose i got a flex handle and didnt know the difference. And let me tell you, it was flexing!! At one point i was getting scared about just what it would do if it broke -but it never did.

Thanks for all the help!
Now, back to engine removal...
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Old 06-24-2002 | 07:05 PM
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Kelsean:

Loctite is not needed on the crank bolt. Just torque it to 155 ft-lbs.

Glad you got it out. Good job.
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Old 06-24-2002 | 08:49 PM
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My local tool shop rents those BMF'in drives 3/4 or 1" I think it was, that and a piece of steel pipe about four feet long WILL move anything., I used it for a stub axle once.
Old 06-24-2002 | 08:52 PM
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Be sure to get a good torque wrench so you can get it back on there at 158lb-ft so that it engages the oil pump.
Old 06-24-2002 | 10:01 PM
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A johnson bar, where the drive can slide on the shaft, combined with a nice bit o' pipe and if necessary a few shots with a hammer to the pipe to impact it will do the trick every time.

Buy Craftsman and they replace it if it breaks.

"Never use force, just a bigger hammer."
Old 06-24-2002 | 11:05 PM
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Easiest way to break free a crank bolt if you can't fit a gun in there.

Use a good breaker bar with the right length. Have someone crank the engine and note the direction of rotation. Carefully wedge the breaker bar to the floor or frame of car, or whatever is solid so that when the engine is cranked the bolt will turn LOOSE not tight. Don't position it so that it will break the radiator or something else. Have someone crank the car one second. Loose.

Personally, I have never done this on a Porsche, though.

,Bill
Old 06-25-2002 | 01:14 AM
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When I had to remove the crank pulley bolt I used a 1/2" drive craftsman breaker bar with my 2 ton jac handle over the breaker bar as the "persuader". Shattered the breaker bar in three places. Once I had my new breaker bar (love the lifetime warranty), I stole my wifes torch which she uses for cooking and heated up the bolt....don't know exactly if it was a defective wrench or the heating of the bolt, but it finally broke loose.
Old 06-25-2002 | 01:44 AM
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UH...Uh.. Torch for cooking? My wife used to be a welder in the navy but I think she would draw the line at a torch for cooking ! Unless it was a really tough piece of meat.



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