odonnell

Fabrication skills like you can't even imagine, and probably a 944 parts car.

Kings0987654321

The guy doing it used to work for porsche in Germany and can do all the fab I'm paying him around 3g for the swap :S and have a porsche junkyard I can order any part from for a decent price

morghen

Well 3g is not that much is it?
Depending on what wheels you want to run, you need just the hubs and brakes from a 944S2 or also the suspension arms.
You also need stronger torsion bars for the rears as the S2 engine will make the USA downrated bars squat a lot. Oh, front springs are also needed from the S2 or harder custom springs. I dont know what you mean by Konig suspension, if you mean koni shock absorbers, then they are not enough, you need propper springs and sway bars for the added weight and power.
You also need to cut the frame in the front to fit the nuts which hold the aluminium crossmember needed for the S2 engine.

I think you would have been better off asking what to do on 924board.org before spending 3g on parts.
It would be much easier to strap a turbo to the old 2L motor. Power levels of the 944S2 are easy to reach with the old 2L engine without any modifications to the engine...basically it has been done here in europe. A guy (well he knows his stuff) basically added a turbo to the 2L NA engine, added EFI and tuned it and yea...if i remember corectly he pushed about 300HP out of an old 2L with 300.000km mileage motor.

Ok, he also upgraded the brakes and suspension to cope with the extra power..but you get the idea.
Oh and i dont think he spent 6g+++ like you plan to.

Kings0987654321

K Thans for the info, buddy who worked for porsche said he could do the swap and max it would be is 4G, I may have to put a decal on the window for him though and I don't want to do what easy or has been done the Carrera gtr I think it was was only 2.5L I want a 3.0 one and it sounds like a fun project/rare car and by the time I'm done I'm looking around 10g lol but I'm going to list it for around 20 after and start another crazy project

morghen

The GTR has the 2.0L, the GTP has the 2.5 if i recall corectly.
That 3.0L will be fun to have if you manage to keep it lightweight.

Kings0987654321

That's ya going to be a big task I'm going to pretty much gut it with 2 front light weight maybe Sparco or bride seats but I have to add weight to the rear to try and keep that 50/50 balance and the stronger larger parts obviously add weight but I'm thinking if I get stronger interior engine components and run a higher boost turbo I should be ok? I already have the 5 lug wheels and 4 wheel disc, going to upgrade the whole brake system though. I was thinking too maybe a couple 15" kickers in the back might help even the weight

morghen

Well if you have the 5lug setup that should be fine for what you're doing...no real need for bigger brakes.
Factory 924 seats are not that heavy actually, you wont loose significant weight by swapping for modern sport seats.
If the old 2L engine has good compression and good oil pressure you dont even need to get any internal components...you can throw a turbo at it and even run 1bar if you invest in EFI, good intercooling and good tuning. You will have to use a bigger Ford Bronco clutch tho. The only condition is that you or somebody who is converting to EFI to know what they are doing. I'm sure there are shops who prep rally cars or race cars.

I think there is a lot of effort even if you go the 2L turbo way, or you go for the 3L swap.

Kings0987654321

I already have the 3L on the way I'm thinking 3L turbo maybe supercharge? Something even more different turbo or super charger would be down the road though

Arominus

the problem you will have is that the early 924's don't mount the 2.5/2.7/3.0L motors without cutting out the motor mounts. The crossmember changed with the 944's introduction vs the early cars. IIRC you can't unbolt the early steel crossmember to put the late aluminum one in. On a 924S you can bolt the S2 motor straight up to its existing crossmember.

You need a 924S or a 944 for your swap to go smoothly, otherwise your in for a world of Fabrication. Your friend may have been a "porsche tech" but if he really knew what he was doing, he would have told you to do the swap on a later car. Get a later car, it will be cheaper in the long run and won't need the 5-bolt conversion nor all of the extra work of getting the motor in it.

Supercharging the car is more Fab work or the 928motorsports kit which requires cutting out the hood latch and converting to fixed headlights.

Ill say it one more time, sell the 79 and find a 924S or late 944 to put your S2 motor in. Do the 79 at your pocketbooks peril.

Kings0987654321

I know about the mounts and cross member so does he, was told not a problem and as posted prior I already have the 5 lug and 4 wheel disc

Kings0987654321

And it's not a 79 it's a 77 924 cali/ 89 944s2 swap lol ;p that's why I'm doing it because it's so crazy if I wanted to be like everyone else and not have something u unique I would buy a civic lmfao

Arominus

Good luck, its not easy in a 77 or 79. There were a lot of changes to the series in 83 and again at the 85.5 mark. Your project would be much much easier in a later car. I've got a 968 engine swapped in my S2 and believe me when i say, 200hp (or 236 in my case) isn't that special anymore. Its not crazy unfortunately, its better to drive for sure, but its not cray cray.

Get a later car or suffer. Everything, including electronics integration is easier on the later cars as the motor your getting was made to fit properly. You don' have to worry about driveline alignment, welding things in properly, massive rewiring to make it work right. You just bolt the motor in, plug the S2 engine harness into the body harness, Install the other 16v specific electronics in the engine bay, plug the S2 DME into the harness in place of the 8v do a few jumpers and boom, your swapped with no major headaches. You even get to keep the factory evap system working so you pass emissions. The factory S2 exhaust will bolt into the later car, the fuel lines are one the correct side of the car (passenger side). Its all so much easier.

Catching my drift?