Sunroof redo
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How high should the sunroof extend when in "vent".
I recently installed new gears and now my roof extends more on the drivers side- flexing the sunroof. Limiters readjusted automatically..
Anyone?
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I recently installed new gears and now my roof extends more on the drivers side- flexing the sunroof. Limiters readjusted automatically..
Anyone?
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Hi
I have some problems with my sunroof also. The gears were stripped so I replaced them. For the alignment I did the following.
1) roof is closed and lifters are not installed yet.
2) test the motor by pushing the up and down roof switch several times and check it stops after a while in up or down position. (ignition in position ii). Check it also at the sunroof motor assembly in the rear. (left side in the hatch).
3) press the down until motor stops and check the sunroof motor position. The plastic cam should close the double switches or at least the top one. At this time it would be nice to have the double microswitches in their middle position (they can slide a bit after loosing the nut/bolt that fixes it)
4) in the down position put the lifters in. I got the right position with 3 teeth outside the lifter housing on both sides. The notch of the lifters should be just below the knee of the slides in the roof. If they are too low the roof opens automaticaly at high speed.
Problems I encountered.
a) broken connection at the motor assembly of the wire tube. Can be fixed with two small hose clambs and a wire wrap. Or a replacement part ofcourse.
b) wrong connected switches done by the PO.
c) clutch too strong.
The clutch too strong and a misalignment of the lifters is the main reason of stripping the gears. This happens while their is no microswitch to stop the motor if the lifters are completely retracted to remove the sunroof.
I still have the problem that when retracting the lifters for removal of the sun roof the wire that drives the gears gets out the right lifter housing. I have no idea why. It seems the drive wire is too short. THe result is that I have to do the alignment all over.
Have fun with it. Paul
I have some problems with my sunroof also. The gears were stripped so I replaced them. For the alignment I did the following.
1) roof is closed and lifters are not installed yet.
2) test the motor by pushing the up and down roof switch several times and check it stops after a while in up or down position. (ignition in position ii). Check it also at the sunroof motor assembly in the rear. (left side in the hatch).
3) press the down until motor stops and check the sunroof motor position. The plastic cam should close the double switches or at least the top one. At this time it would be nice to have the double microswitches in their middle position (they can slide a bit after loosing the nut/bolt that fixes it)
4) in the down position put the lifters in. I got the right position with 3 teeth outside the lifter housing on both sides. The notch of the lifters should be just below the knee of the slides in the roof. If they are too low the roof opens automaticaly at high speed.
Problems I encountered.
a) broken connection at the motor assembly of the wire tube. Can be fixed with two small hose clambs and a wire wrap. Or a replacement part ofcourse.
b) wrong connected switches done by the PO.
c) clutch too strong.
The clutch too strong and a misalignment of the lifters is the main reason of stripping the gears. This happens while their is no microswitch to stop the motor if the lifters are completely retracted to remove the sunroof.
I still have the problem that when retracting the lifters for removal of the sun roof the wire that drives the gears gets out the right lifter housing. I have no idea why. It seems the drive wire is too short. THe result is that I have to do the alignment all over.
Have fun with it. Paul
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If I remember correctly, I put the key in the first position and activated the switch to retract the sunroof arms, as if you were going to take the sunroof off the car. I then positioned the arms so that they were as retracted as I could get them, that made it real easy to tell if they were aligned. This was the only way I could determine an absolute reference for the arm position.
I tested everything by engaging the arms with the top (key in the first position), and when I verified that all was working well I buttoned her up.
It has worked great ever since, however there is just a very tiny bit of play (1/16” or so) when the sunroof is closed. There is no leakage and I only really notice it when I close the door with the windows rolled up - I see the sunroof pop up a bit (at first I thought it was frame flex, like in some of my past comvertibles).
There is a micro-switch at the front center of the header that is activated by the tab from the sunroof. It controls the rise height of the sunroof. I have heard that this often needs replacement or adjustment, neither of which I have had to do.
I second the idea of keeping spare gears. I keep an extra set in my parts bin.
I tested everything by engaging the arms with the top (key in the first position), and when I verified that all was working well I buttoned her up.
It has worked great ever since, however there is just a very tiny bit of play (1/16” or so) when the sunroof is closed. There is no leakage and I only really notice it when I close the door with the windows rolled up - I see the sunroof pop up a bit (at first I thought it was frame flex, like in some of my past comvertibles).
There is a micro-switch at the front center of the header that is activated by the tab from the sunroof. It controls the rise height of the sunroof. I have heard that this often needs replacement or adjustment, neither of which I have had to do.
I second the idea of keeping spare gears. I keep an extra set in my parts bin.