TDC
#1
TDC
So... how do you know you are getting "close" to top dead center by blipping the starter? Won't you just keep shooting past it, and not see if you've missed it? I was trying earlier today and it seems way too fast to catch, not to mention it seems unhealthy for the engine to be doing it. Cranking at the crankshaft in turn takes forever...
#3
What is up with using the starter in Clarks/Haynes anyway?? I am disappointed.
#4
Rennlist Member
Not sure why they think the starter method is better. I've always pulled the plugs, and used a 1/2" drive 24mm deep socket and I get 2/3 rotation of the crankshaft working from underneath.
#5
If the car is on the ground I sometimes put it in gear and bump it with me knee, otherwise I use the crank bolt to turn it.
The starter method is easy if you have a push button switch for this. Just clamp on the starter terminals and tap the button while you watch through the TDC window at the top of the bellhousing. It's alot easier then "turn a little, check window, turn a little, check window, oops too far, try again, check..." Although after enough times when turning my hand using the crank bolt, you can feel when it's close to TDC.
The starter method is easy if you have a push button switch for this. Just clamp on the starter terminals and tap the button while you watch through the TDC window at the top of the bellhousing. It's alot easier then "turn a little, check window, turn a little, check window, oops too far, try again, check..." Although after enough times when turning my hand using the crank bolt, you can feel when it's close to TDC.
#6
Three Wheelin'
I didn't do the starter method at all - just get a ratchet and turn it till the notch on the pulley lines up and then double check on the window. It helps to spray degreaser or something in to the window to see the TDC mark
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#8
Three Wheelin'
Look at the cam sprocket. You can see the alignment mark from the front of the car, while you're turning the crank bolt. When you get it lined up, check for TDC at the bellhousing on top, or at the starter. If it's not TDC, you're 180 degrees out. Crank until the cam sprocket goes around again. Verify TDC....you can probably see the one on the top of the bellhousing and be able to grab your extension at the same time for fine adjustment.
Done this twice so far - by myself. No problems.
Done this twice so far - by myself. No problems.
#9
Look at the cam sprocket. You can see the alignment mark from the front of the car, while you're turning the crank bolt. When you get it lined up, check for TDC at the bellhousing on top, or at the starter. If it's not TDC, you're 180 degrees out. Crank until the cam sprocket goes around again. Verify TDC....you can probably see the one on the top of the bellhousing and be able to grab your extension at the same time for fine adjustment.
Done this twice so far - by myself. No problems.
Done this twice so far - by myself. No problems.
To cut a long story short, that will teach me for not double checking what size drive my 1" extension was before buying a regular, not deep, socket.
#10
Three Wheelin'
Take out the air box.
I was trying to figure out why you were having such a hard time from the top because I didn't. I went back through my pictures and saw that I had the air box out while I was doing that. It's easy to remove...you don't even need to disconnect the wiring harness - just lay it over on top of the intake.
I was trying to figure out why you were having such a hard time from the top because I didn't. I went back through my pictures and saw that I had the air box out while I was doing that. It's easy to remove...you don't even need to disconnect the wiring harness - just lay it over on top of the intake.
#12
RL Community Team
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deep 24mm socket, 1/2" socket wrench, it's easy turning it over. If you don't have a deep socket you'll be there all day and get nowhere! Take out the spark plugs to really make it a breeze to turn. And all you have to do is paint a little mark on the AC sprocket on the crank for TDC and from then on you can easily know when you're getting close, so you don't waste time getting up and lying down.
Or if you have a helper, it's cake.
Or if you have a helper, it's cake.
#13
OK, that has all been done! Now I just ran the beastie, and the great news is vibration is pretty much gone!!
Bad news is I have a significant scream when giving it gas (covers off, hood open....) wondering how much is normal for the belts to scream?
Bad news is I have a significant scream when giving it gas (covers off, hood open....) wondering how much is normal for the belts to scream?
#14
Three Wheelin'
1.) Your balance shaft idler is touching the BS pulley (the plastic one). Go to the front of the car while its running. Throttle up. See if the belt touches and spins it all the time. It makes quite a whine. Adjust it back if it is.
2.) You balance shaft belt is too tight. Its supposed to be a lot looser than you think.
#15
Race Director
... but it is the only way to do it. You can pull the plugs to make it easier to turn over.
The one thing to look for is the set screw on the flywheel you will see it before the OT mark. So just crank it over untill you see the set screw flyby then take it slow and look for the OT mark.
The one thing to look for is the set screw on the flywheel you will see it before the OT mark. So just crank it over untill you see the set screw flyby then take it slow and look for the OT mark.