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I just said "we" because...I don't know why <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

I would rather get a brand new one so I know for sure it's not leaking. I don't believe mine is leaking, but there is the occasional fuel odor - happens only after shutting the motor off, though.

89magic98

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Chris_924s:
<strong>Thanks Kevin! I'm not so sure about the e-bay one. It may be bad as well.
I dont mind the smell of 93 Octane- Just the wicked hangover!! <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />
I think I'm gonna replace the fuel lines as well- mine seem to be cracking.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

anyone have the P/N's for them? or a suitable solution for fuel line replacement..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I have no idea why yours would spring a leak, especially if it wasn't bent. I would go for the used one. My used one works just fine. Just don't damage the rail by messing with the end cap on the end of the rail. I had to replace my rail because I over-torqued the sealing cap and sheared off the threaded end of the rail.

The hose that is in the ebay listing can get particularly rotten, and, from what I can determine, was subject to a recall. If yours does not leak, maybe you should use that hose, regulator, and damper from your existing rail - who knows if the ones included with the ebay item are problematic.

Do you think there is fuel running down these fuel lines onto the rail? Just another thought.

The problem with the fuel lines on the 924s is that they are crimped at the back of the firewall (where the metal lines become rubber). There is no "bolt-in" replacement. On my car, I had the ends cut off and replaced with compression fittings and new hoses.

It worked, but it was expensive ($350 parts and labor), and not the best way to do it. If I were doing it again, I would use these hoses...

<a href="http://www.rennbay.com/ssfuellines.html" target="_blank">http://www.rennbay.com/ssfuellines.html</a>

...and do it myself. It will be a lot of work to cut the crimp fittings off in the way he describes in the instructions, primarly because of limited clearance in that area.

Also, you will probably need to measure the line length and have him make you a custom set. The normal 944 fuel lines go into the passenger side fender well, so they may not be the same length as what we would need.

-Kevin

Chris_924s

Kevin- i was thinking of retrofitting Stainless lines anyway. I really like Aeroquip- but $$$
they will NEVER leak.. and the compression fittings will mate up with the OD on the fuel line behind the firewall..
I have the "might as well's" now..

jason_87924s

Chris,

Don't know if this was posted above...as i just skimmed, but you don't want to undertake the replacement of fuel lines. Get a dremel and cut the fittings right beside the brake booster and put yourself some new lines on right there. I tried stainless and still had a small leak because the stainless does not allow the hose clamp to clamp down hard enough. I just went to the local parts store and bought regular old fuel line. I figured it lasted 15+ years...maybe it will do the same again!

Either way, good luck.

Jason

89magic98

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Chris_924s:
<strong>Kevin- i was thinking of retrofitting Stainless lines anyway. I really like Aeroquip- but $$$
they will NEVER leak.. and the compression fittings will mate up with the OD on the fuel line behind the firewall..
I have the "might as well's" now..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Chris,

Don't exactly understand the first line with the $$$.

Once you completely cut the end of the fuel line, you will never be able to use those lines for sale on rennbay, because they require you to peel back and cut off the crimp part only, not the entire end of the fuel line.

My compression fittings don't leak, but I still have a ever-so-slight smell of gas from that area. I am afraid to tighten them anymore.

Also, when you say stainless steel lines, do they have any flex to them? Keep in mind that the motor can move, so some part of the fuel lines need to flex along with them. And in the event of an accident, if the engine moved in the impact, you would break the lines if they did not flex.

-Kevin

Chris_924s

stainless DOES flex- I'm talking about BRAIDED stainless lines- not stainless tubing.

there has GOT to be a better way than replacing the lines with NOS. (new old stock, not NAAAWSSS)

Aeroquip- we used them in a lot of aircraft fuel lines- very secure and leakproof. but can run into a lot of change.. (dollars AND engineering)ID had to be the same at input/output. there was always a fitting we needed- and it took a long time.

Peckster

The injectors can leak too, can't they, especially at the top where it goes into the rail? I'd want to make sure the rail is the problem before buying another one.

I think wrapping everything in paper is kind of high risk. What I meant was to dab at places until the paper gets wet with gas.

The fact it only leaks while the engine is running makes me suspect an injector more than the rail.

Chris_924s

I used small pcs of paper toweling- wrapped a small "rope" of towel along the tops and bottoms of injectors- as well as all the fuel line mating points. I cant see exactly were the leak is originating. I had someone start the car while I watched- I cant see any fuel "spraying", just the rail getting damp from underneath, and fuel pooling on the bottom bracket of the rail.

I'm still looking at the rail with a confused face..

Chris_924s

definetly new fuel rail is needed. It leaks around the braze for the support- underneath- why it was so dam hard to see.
I was just quoted 630$ from the dealer.. not in stock- 3 weeks delivery. YeeOuch!!

89magic98

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Chris_924s:
<strong>definetly new fuel rail is needed. It leaks around the braze for the support- underneath- why it was so dam hard to see.
I was just quoted 630$ from the dealer.. not in stock- 3 weeks delivery. YeeOuch!!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Well, $630 is (in the best case scenario) 10% of the value of the car.

You could buy and 15-20 used ones before you hit the cost of a new one.

I don't think it's a wear item. Just because yours broke, doesn't mean that one of a similar age will break any time soon.

Chris_924s

I'm aware of that - seems odd that it just started leaking. I havent touched anything on the top of the engine for a year or so.. new plugs in Feb, thats about it.

Peckster

How hard can it be to rebraze it? I'm not a brazer, but it would beat $630! That's wild.

nine-44

Shoot me an offer, I know that I have a good one. Mine are all the late style, with the regulator and dampener at opposite ends. Do you need the dampener and regulator too? PM or Email, I may forget to recheck this post(it's been known to happen).

Derrek Khajavi

I guess this is as good a time as any to announce our new billet aluminum fuel rail kits with AN fittings and billet aluminum three port race adjustable fuel pressure regulator including aircraft fuel lines! The kit is complete with everything needed to install. Cost is $475. They will be up on the Huntley Shopping cart over the weekend.

Chris_924s

Derrick- there IS a need for aftermarket- but so many good used ones out there. I need one NOW cheaply.. maybe on the "Project.."