My car on ebay... but i am not selling
05-14-2002, 04:06 PM
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05-14-2002, 05:15 PM
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since the auction is now dead, one of you guys who saw it should post who the seller was so everyone can keep an eye out for him...
05-14-2002, 05:37 PM
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I think it was mega_speed_force or something very similar. I wouldn't count on seeing this guy again though, so I'm not sure what you would look out for.
I think this user id was created specifically for this sale. He had a feedback rating of 0.
Just be careful out there, and never buy a car without the VIN.
I think this user id was created specifically for this sale. He had a feedback rating of 0.
Just be careful out there, and never buy a car without the VIN.
05-14-2002, 06:43 PM
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05-14-2002, 06:57 PM
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Here's what I got back from E-bay:
[quote]Hello, Thank you for providing us with the details about this situation with mega_fast_speed. We are concerned about violations on the site and have thoroughly investigated your report. Please be assured that we have taken appropriate action in accordance with our site policies. Our actions may include issuing a warning, temporary suspension, indefinite suspension or terminating the membership. At this time, our records indicate the user you are reporting is no longer a registered eBay user. Because privacy concerns are important to everyone we are not at liberty to discuss the details of another user's account. This includes information regarding the reasons for any action we may take against another account and the duration of a suspension. We hope that you understand our position in this situation. We also hope that it assures you that your personal account history will always remain private. We appreciate your assistance in keeping eBay a fun and safe place to trade. Thank you for being part of the eBay community. Regards, Frankie Investigations Team Safe Harbor Department ---------------------------------------------- eBay Your Personal Trading Community (tm) ******************************************* For our latest announcements, please check: <a href="http://www2.ebay.com/aw/announce.shtml" target="_blank">http://www2.ebay.com/aw/announce.shtml</a> In order to better serve you, we'd like to occasionally request feedback on our service. If you would rather not participate, please click on the link below and send us an email with the word "REMOVE" in the subject line. If that does not work, please send an email to the email address below. Your request will be processed within 5 days. mailto:cssremove@ebay.com ******************************************* (20673841) Original Message Follows: -------------------------
Several of us over at forums.rennlist.com have been following this auction and several of us believe it might be a scam.
This is the auction in question:
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?View" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?View</a> Item&item=1828668509
There are several reasons for this:
1. This is not a turbo, contrary to what the auction claims. This can be seen by several indications, all of which are apparent to anyone even slightly familiar with these cars. First of all it does not bear the turbo badge next to the 944 above the rear bumper. Second, the 944 turbo has a completely different front end. Third, the engine bay depicted is simply not a turbo.
2. This is not a 1986 model. The dash shown was only produced up to 1985. From mid way through 1985 until the end of the model's production there was a totally different dash. The car show is in fact a 1983 model. The pictures shown struck several of us as oddly familiar. After a little searching we found exactly the same speaker system on this Rennlist thread. Do a search for tsw427.
<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_t" target="_blank">http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_t</a> opic&f=15&t=006501
3. The tsw427 from the previous thread, which states that the car is a 1983, also has a web-page with several pictures of the same car:
<a href="http://www.sounddomai" target="_blank">http://www.sounddomai</a> n.com/id/porsche_9_4_4
So in short the seller knows nothing about this car. He has not responded as of yet to questions about the mistake in model year or the missing turbo. The seller has a 0 rating, has set no reserve, and could have very easily have simply copied these photographs from the previously mentioned website. Add to this the fact that no VIN was given and several of us are very suspicious.
It seems like all the indications point towards this being a scam.
With all that said, we don't know for sure that it is, but I thought perhaps someone in E-Bay might be interested in this. I would hate to have noticed all these incongruities and said nothing.
I guess I'm suggesting that someone seriously look into this, but not to act too rashly, as there is the outside chance this person has only exagerated (although quite a bit) in their descriptions of the vehicle.
--- Jonathan L. Martin
--- reply to: jonathan.martini@ieee.org for faster response
<hr></blockquote>
All in all I think having the auction taken off was probably the best result we could have expected. Kudos to everyone here. Just when you think Rennlist couldn't get any cooler, we become crime fighters.
Maybe next we'll develop super powers. I want mine to be the ability to make red lights green.
Cheers!
[quote]Hello, Thank you for providing us with the details about this situation with mega_fast_speed. We are concerned about violations on the site and have thoroughly investigated your report. Please be assured that we have taken appropriate action in accordance with our site policies. Our actions may include issuing a warning, temporary suspension, indefinite suspension or terminating the membership. At this time, our records indicate the user you are reporting is no longer a registered eBay user. Because privacy concerns are important to everyone we are not at liberty to discuss the details of another user's account. This includes information regarding the reasons for any action we may take against another account and the duration of a suspension. We hope that you understand our position in this situation. We also hope that it assures you that your personal account history will always remain private. We appreciate your assistance in keeping eBay a fun and safe place to trade. Thank you for being part of the eBay community. Regards, Frankie Investigations Team Safe Harbor Department ---------------------------------------------- eBay Your Personal Trading Community (tm) ******************************************* For our latest announcements, please check: <a href="http://www2.ebay.com/aw/announce.shtml" target="_blank">http://www2.ebay.com/aw/announce.shtml</a> In order to better serve you, we'd like to occasionally request feedback on our service. If you would rather not participate, please click on the link below and send us an email with the word "REMOVE" in the subject line. If that does not work, please send an email to the email address below. Your request will be processed within 5 days. mailto:cssremove@ebay.com ******************************************* (20673841) Original Message Follows: -------------------------
Several of us over at forums.rennlist.com have been following this auction and several of us believe it might be a scam.
This is the auction in question:
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?View" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?View</a> Item&item=1828668509
There are several reasons for this:
1. This is not a turbo, contrary to what the auction claims. This can be seen by several indications, all of which are apparent to anyone even slightly familiar with these cars. First of all it does not bear the turbo badge next to the 944 above the rear bumper. Second, the 944 turbo has a completely different front end. Third, the engine bay depicted is simply not a turbo.
2. This is not a 1986 model. The dash shown was only produced up to 1985. From mid way through 1985 until the end of the model's production there was a totally different dash. The car show is in fact a 1983 model. The pictures shown struck several of us as oddly familiar. After a little searching we found exactly the same speaker system on this Rennlist thread. Do a search for tsw427.
<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_t" target="_blank">http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_t</a> opic&f=15&t=006501
3. The tsw427 from the previous thread, which states that the car is a 1983, also has a web-page with several pictures of the same car:
<a href="http://www.sounddomai" target="_blank">http://www.sounddomai</a> n.com/id/porsche_9_4_4
So in short the seller knows nothing about this car. He has not responded as of yet to questions about the mistake in model year or the missing turbo. The seller has a 0 rating, has set no reserve, and could have very easily have simply copied these photographs from the previously mentioned website. Add to this the fact that no VIN was given and several of us are very suspicious.
It seems like all the indications point towards this being a scam.
With all that said, we don't know for sure that it is, but I thought perhaps someone in E-Bay might be interested in this. I would hate to have noticed all these incongruities and said nothing.
I guess I'm suggesting that someone seriously look into this, but not to act too rashly, as there is the outside chance this person has only exagerated (although quite a bit) in their descriptions of the vehicle.
--- Jonathan L. Martin
--- reply to: jonathan.martini@ieee.org for faster response
<hr></blockquote>
All in all I think having the auction taken off was probably the best result we could have expected. Kudos to everyone here. Just when you think Rennlist couldn't get any cooler, we become crime fighters.
Maybe next we'll develop super powers. I want mine to be the ability to make red lights green.
Cheers!
05-14-2002, 09:40 PM
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The rennlist community VS the scumbags community. I haven't gotten ripped off on E-bay yet, I get the opinion only guys who aren't too bright try to pull scams on it.
05-14-2002, 10:14 PM
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thanks for all the help, the aution is off ebay now, i think the seller was Mega_fast_speed, he probly just made the name for that sell tough.
i would have liked to see how much my car would have gone for though.
to all you saying there were two diffent wheels and red lenses:
thoses were my old wheels (sitting in my garage if anyone wants to buy them)
and the red lenses are photo shop, i was playing around with it one day. the license plate was also photo shop
once again thanks for all the help
-steve
i would have liked to see how much my car would have gone for though.
to all you saying there were two diffent wheels and red lenses:
thoses were my old wheels (sitting in my garage if anyone wants to buy them)
and the red lenses are photo shop, i was playing around with it one day. the license plate was also photo shop
once again thanks for all the help
-steve
05-15-2002, 02:40 AM
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Well it was me who found the sale on ebay.
<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=15&t=006552" target="_blank">http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=15&t=006552</a>
The reason i was so vague in my questions is that I didn't want to outright accuse someone until I got a response. I knew it would eventually surface what the facts were when everyone got involved.
I'm a habitual lurker/surfer always looking for descrepancies (sp*) and I'm glad I could help out. I'm new to this board but I've read nearly every thread on it and it has help me out tremendously with repairs on my three n/a's.
Good looking out everyone that pitched in, that's one of the best things about this board I like, everyone is always helping out.
Good job everybody and remember I'm always watching.
<a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=15&t=006552" target="_blank">http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=15&t=006552</a>
The reason i was so vague in my questions is that I didn't want to outright accuse someone until I got a response. I knew it would eventually surface what the facts were when everyone got involved.
I'm a habitual lurker/surfer always looking for descrepancies (sp*) and I'm glad I could help out. I'm new to this board but I've read nearly every thread on it and it has help me out tremendously with repairs on my three n/a's.
Good looking out everyone that pitched in, that's one of the best things about this board I like, everyone is always helping out.
Good job everybody and remember I'm always watching.
05-15-2002, 02:52 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Peckster:
<strong>I haven't gotten ripped off on E-bay yet...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Keep bidding - unfortunately, your time will come. <img src="graemlins/cussing.gif" border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" />
I just got my second shady deal in the mail today. <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />
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<strong>I haven't gotten ripped off on E-bay yet...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Keep bidding - unfortunately, your time will come. <img src="graemlins/cussing.gif" border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" />
I just got my second shady deal in the mail today. <img src="graemlins/crying.gif" border="0" alt="[crying]" />
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