Battery Cable Upgrade
12-17-2002, 09:44 PM
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Battery Cable Upgrade
Ok, I'm down to the short strokes and should have the fuses tomorrow morning for my install as well as the exemplar.
I'll be using a 200 amp fuse rather than the 175 I propose for you all. Just because LittelFuse doesn't have the 175 filaments on hand and I have to push things forward and see how things fit.
The package looks sweet and we are getting parts that only the big boyz can buy.
If suppliers are reading this message, thanks from the little fry like me for helping out. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
I'll be using a 200 amp fuse rather than the 175 I propose for you all. Just because LittelFuse doesn't have the 175 filaments on hand and I have to push things forward and see how things fit.
The package looks sweet and we are getting parts that only the big boyz can buy.
If suppliers are reading this message, thanks from the little fry like me for helping out. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
12-18-2002, 10:52 AM
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Awesome IceShark! Can't wait to see these babies. Any idea on a possible delivery date? I'm off school for about a month and would love to put them in while I'm out. Thanks for all the work you've done!
12-18-2002, 12:32 PM
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Tadi, LittelFuse has a backlog on the 175 amp elements, which I want to use for the 944. I'm going to do my car with the 200 amp just so I can get the master copy and exlemplar made.
If you want yours quick for install prior to New Years, let me see where this all shakes out. If LittelFuse has a problem on 175, I could do you with 200 amp. Doesn't matter all that much as the battery will shove down about 700 amps on a short and trip any fuse in the 200 area in a heartbeat. Let's hope that never comes to pass, but the saftey is there.
Duke, what benifits? Better conductivity for one. And your old insulation is probably on the edge. You don't want to pull a Perry951 and start your car on fire.
I don't know where exactly we will wind up on conductivity increases as I don't have the full kit made yet. But doing the math with Ohm's law we will be way up on wire size alone. Add in scrubbing terminal contact points with a neat 3M sponge sanding gizmo I found, and will include, conductivity goes up a TON more.
Speaking about extras, do you guys want me to include some silicone dielectric grease? I buy this stuff in big cartridges but think I can get in little tubes for about $3. Sort of a ripoff compared to the big tubes, but you want it to put on the terminal studs and bases. Then no corrosion in future.
If you want yours quick for install prior to New Years, let me see where this all shakes out. If LittelFuse has a problem on 175, I could do you with 200 amp. Doesn't matter all that much as the battery will shove down about 700 amps on a short and trip any fuse in the 200 area in a heartbeat. Let's hope that never comes to pass, but the saftey is there.
Duke, what benifits? Better conductivity for one. And your old insulation is probably on the edge. You don't want to pull a Perry951 and start your car on fire.
I don't know where exactly we will wind up on conductivity increases as I don't have the full kit made yet. But doing the math with Ohm's law we will be way up on wire size alone. Add in scrubbing terminal contact points with a neat 3M sponge sanding gizmo I found, and will include, conductivity goes up a TON more.
Speaking about extras, do you guys want me to include some silicone dielectric grease? I buy this stuff in big cartridges but think I can get in little tubes for about $3. Sort of a ripoff compared to the big tubes, but you want it to put on the terminal studs and bases. Then no corrosion in future.
12-18-2002, 01:29 PM
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I wouldn't mind getting my hands on some of that black sealant you used on your harness kit, Liquid Electic Tape just doesn't cut it for me. The stuff you use seems a whole lot more robust.
12-18-2002, 02:05 PM
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Manning, I sent the tail end of a tube to a fellow rennlister for his project. But they are big 10.7 oz tubes, caulk gun size.
This is mil grade stuff. I think it costs me about $8 a tube (big 10.7 one). If you want one I can ship one out to you. FYI, you need to use it up within 6 months of breaking the seal.
This is mil grade stuff. I think it costs me about $8 a tube (big 10.7 one). If you want one I can ship one out to you. FYI, you need to use it up within 6 months of breaking the seal.
12-18-2002, 06:17 PM
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And here are the fuses via FedEx. Looks like I thought they would.
These were knocked off quick as the wire tails are all sorts of crazy lengths. I'll install tomorrow and see how it looks. Should be fine. That is the last glitch, Thank You LittelFuse, if you are reading. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
These were knocked off quick as the wire tails are all sorts of crazy lengths. I'll install tomorrow and see how it looks. Should be fine. That is the last glitch, Thank You LittelFuse, if you are reading. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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12-18-2002, 06:41 PM
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How bout putting a tube of that stuff in with the battery cable kit for me. I am sure I won't use all of it, but I'd rather have it than not.
Heck, 3M 5200 has to be used faster than that, and I'm used to having to throw out 1/3 to 1/2 full tubes of that from back in the days when I worked on boats.
So I'm clear, exactly what cables are in this new kit your sorting out? It's everything coming off the battery, right?
Heck, 3M 5200 has to be used faster than that, and I'm used to having to throw out 1/3 to 1/2 full tubes of that from back in the days when I worked on boats.
So I'm clear, exactly what cables are in this new kit your sorting out? It's everything coming off the battery, right?
12-18-2002, 07:23 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by IceShark:
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If you want yours quick for install prior to New Years, let me see where this all shakes out. If LittelFuse has a problem on 175, I could do you with 200 amp. </strong><hr></blockquote>
IceShark: I have off till mid Janurary, so not that big of a rush. What kinda delay on the 175s are you talking about? What would be the cost of the kit with the 200 instead?
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If you want yours quick for install prior to New Years, let me see where this all shakes out. If LittelFuse has a problem on 175, I could do you with 200 amp. </strong><hr></blockquote>
IceShark: I have off till mid Janurary, so not that big of a rush. What kinda delay on the 175s are you talking about? What would be the cost of the kit with the 200 instead?
12-18-2002, 08:34 PM
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Tadi, I really don't know what these cost, they are all free samples! <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
I had a long post that went away while I went to take a pee. I'm not going to retype, You can hear about the kits when they roll off the line from the first guys. I'll personaly make all the first run. We shall see how my man servant does with the rest. <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
I had a long post that went away while I went to take a pee. I'm not going to retype, You can hear about the kits when they roll off the line from the first guys. I'll personaly make all the first run. We shall see how my man servant does with the rest. <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
12-19-2002, 03:25 AM
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Mike, I should have dreamed this kit up so you could have put it in with the lighting harness. It is a good upgrade. I'm playing with it now, it is sweet.
Tadi, my guess is the 175 and 200 amp are the same cost. I can get one (200 amp) out to you if you need for your quick install. You will probably have a collectors item. These fuses can't be bought in the open market.
Tadi, my guess is the 175 and 200 amp are the same cost. I can get one (200 amp) out to you if you need for your quick install. You will probably have a collectors item. These fuses can't be bought in the open market.
12-19-2002, 04:11 AM
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[quote]IceShark: ..to include some silicone dielectric grease? <hr></blockquote>
Something is confusing me: dielectric seems the term for insulating (like air) and silicone contains acetic acid.
<a href="http://www.seadition.org/diy_efi/archive/1999-January/msg00569.html" target="_blank">http://www.seadition.org/diy_efi/archive/1999-January/msg00569.html</a>
The good old vaseline does not conduct and I am looking for something that can be applied to the individual lugs rather than just a big lump on the complete pile.
What goop are you using to get both corrosion protection and electrical conductivity?
TakeCare
Something is confusing me: dielectric seems the term for insulating (like air) and silicone contains acetic acid.
<a href="http://www.seadition.org/diy_efi/archive/1999-January/msg00569.html" target="_blank">http://www.seadition.org/diy_efi/archive/1999-January/msg00569.html</a>
The good old vaseline does not conduct and I am looking for something that can be applied to the individual lugs rather than just a big lump on the complete pile.
What goop are you using to get both corrosion protection and electrical conductivity?
TakeCare
12-19-2002, 04:25 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by IceShark:
<strong>Tadi, my guess is the 175 and 200 amp are the same cost. I can get one (200 amp) out to you if you need for your quick install. You will probably have a collectors item. These fuses can't be bought in the open market.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, I would like to get this done before classes start up again. Would this be the whole kit with special IceShark top-notch construction?
If so, I'd be up for it - You can be sure I'll post my impressions of it so the other guys can see whats up. If you want, I'll document the install with pictures too. My engine compartment needs a cleaning anyway (can't have my baby on display without at least giving her a ****** bath with some diluted simple green 
)
By the way, have you come up with a final figure on the pricing?
<strong>Tadi, my guess is the 175 and 200 amp are the same cost. I can get one (200 amp) out to you if you need for your quick install. You will probably have a collectors item. These fuses can't be bought in the open market.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, I would like to get this done before classes start up again. Would this be the whole kit with special IceShark top-notch construction?
If so, I'd be up for it - You can be sure I'll post my impressions of it so the other guys can see whats up. If you want, I'll document the install with pictures too. My engine compartment needs a cleaning anyway (can't have my baby on display without at least giving her a ****** bath with some diluted simple green )By the way, have you come up with a final figure on the pricing?
12-19-2002, 04:42 AM
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Hans, this is the replacement for vaseline, which I certainly trust. It has a much higher melting point as it is silicone grease, not the RTV that is acid. Heck, you are way behind as I use Mil spec. silicone on my connectors. Non-acid cure from Dow.
But I saw a 50 year old vaseline connector box opened up. This was on a telephone pole for 50 years. Perfect!
Non-conductive like vaseline, you make the current flow by clamping the terminals together very tight, and the grease squishes out.
I'll probably be including little tubes of it with the battery cable kit. If you want a sample to check out, just send me your mailing address.
Vaseline is GREAT, this stuff is better. Try it out and judge for yourself.
But I saw a 50 year old vaseline connector box opened up. This was on a telephone pole for 50 years. Perfect!
Non-conductive like vaseline, you make the current flow by clamping the terminals together very tight, and the grease squishes out.
I'll probably be including little tubes of it with the battery cable kit. If you want a sample to check out, just send me your mailing address.
Vaseline is GREAT, this stuff is better. Try it out and judge for yourself.