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Old 08-21-2008 | 03:03 AM
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Hi,

I was wondering what the symptoms were and what eventually happens to the car when the oil pick up tube cracks?

Thanks!
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no oil pressure and engine failure?
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http://www.clarks-garage.com/phpBB2/...ght=oil+pickup
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Originally Posted by pologuy
Hi,

I was wondering what the symptoms were and what eventually happens to the car when the oil pick up tube cracks?

Thanks!
I had mine do that at the track.


I never noticed any problems till the bearing spun and 500 yards later the bottom of the #2 rod shot out the bottom of the engine.

Later on watchin in car video I notice something interesting.

The oil pressure gauge was in the picture and under hard braking at turn in the oil pressure would drop to zero. Then as soon as I turned and acclerated out it would come right back to normal pressure. I saw this happen for 3 miles or before it failed. However when driving I never saw any issues since I did not check oil pressure when braking at turn in. It was too busy to look at gauges there. When I check on the straight right after oil pressure was fine.

In fact my oil pressure was good even when the bottom end blew up. I suspect the tube was craked and flopping forward under braking enough to suck air, bit under accleration it would move back into place. The rod bearing could not stand this for long and spun. The rest of the motor was actually in great shape as the damage from no oil pressure was limited to the spun bearing and resuling damage when it siezed. I have been using the same head and cam from that motor for 5+ years since incident. Block was obviously trashed, but other 3 pistons and bores looked great.
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I have one out of an 86 951 if you need one.
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Originally Posted by M758
I had mine do that at the track.


I never noticed any problems till the bearing spun and 500 yards later the bottom of the #2 rod shot out the bottom of the engine.

Later on watchin in car video I notice something interesting.

The oil pressure gauge was in the picture and under hard braking at turn in the oil pressure would drop to zero. Then as soon as I turned and acclerated out it would come right back to normal pressure. I saw this happen for 3 miles or before it failed. However when driving I never saw any issues since I did not check oil pressure when braking at turn in. It was too busy to look at gauges there. When I check on the straight right after oil pressure was fine.

In fact my oil pressure was good even when the bottom end blew up. I suspect the tube was craked and flopping forward under braking enough to suck air, bit under accleration it would move back into place. The rod bearing could not stand this for long and spun. The rest of the motor was actually in great shape as the damage from no oil pressure was limited to the spun bearing and resuling damage when it siezed. I have been using the same head and cam from that motor for 5+ years since incident. Block was obviously trashed, but other 3 pistons and bores looked great.
That is almost exactly what happened to mine... however, I was not on a track, lol.

Was driving and when I would come to a stop or turned at a street light the oil light would come on...
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I assume you have checked the oil level?
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I assume you have checked the oil level?
LOL, yes

It actually had an oil change and some balance shaft work done a few days before this happend...
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Which, I am told, is more than likely the reason for the oil pick up tube going....

The balance shafts were not done properly....
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Or you have a bad motor mount. Mine went at the track, but I got the engine shut off fast enough.
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LOL, yes

It actually had an oil change and some balance shaft work done a few days before this happend...

That I believe is what caused mine to fail. However it took a few months to result in an issue for me
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Originally Posted by M758
I had mine do that at the track.


I never noticed any problems till the bearing spun and 500 yards later the bottom of the #2 rod shot out the bottom of the engine.

Later on watchin in car video I notice something interesting.

The oil pressure gauge was in the picture and under hard braking at turn in the oil pressure would drop to zero. Then as soon as I turned and acclerated out it would come right back to normal pressure. I saw this happen for 3 miles or before it failed. However when driving I never saw any issues since I did not check oil pressure when braking at turn in. It was too busy to look at gauges there. When I check on the straight right after oil pressure was fine.

In fact my oil pressure was good even when the bottom end blew up. I suspect the tube was craked and flopping forward under braking enough to suck air, bit under accleration it would move back into place. The rod bearing could not stand this for long and spun. The rest of the motor was actually in great shape as the damage from no oil pressure was limited to the spun bearing and resuling damage when it siezed. I have been using the same head and cam from that motor for 5+ years since incident. Block was obviously trashed, but other 3 pistons and bores looked great.
lol this is exactly what my car is doing right now. hard braking = drop to less than 1bar oil press. as soon as i stop braking, goes back to 2.5. turn right = drop to less than 1 bar oil press, straighten out = normal. turning left doesn't drop.....

i just moved so cleaning up garage and preping to drop engine and rebuild.



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