Luke

Personally,

I think LT1's car is AWESOME.

BTW, I really like his garage too!

project356.com

I already have a 996 turbo, my main objective is to make a sleeper, everyone sees 930's as fast cars.. the 944NA would be the perfect sleeper right??

Luke

buy a 3.1 milledge motor.

<a href="http://www.jmengines.com" target="_blank">www.jmengines.com</a>

I think they are rated at around 540hp.

If you have a 996 TT then you can deffinately afford one of those.

jordanolder

I'd like to see someone put a 928 engine in their 944. The fit is tight but could barely make it.

I think the 928 engine is 27 inches wide.

Does anyone have measurements?

Third Eye

Ok, here's what I suggest if budget can handle it. Buy a rebuilt 968 motor and a powerhause turbo charging kit or whatever. ~540HP and your car would sound awsome. If that's not feasible, maybe try this! Cut some in your engine compartment to fit an intercooler for the 951 engine. Call up Speed Force Racing and get one of their 2.82L motors, I think that should just about do it? There are lots of options.
951 motor = cutting requied
968 motor = perfect fit but you'll probably need new bellhousings and ****.

Honestly, my 951 runs ~5.4 0-60 in when @ 3287lbs (that's w/ me in it and full tank). I can't imagine what my 944 would do @2820lbs (that's w/ me in it and full tank. So I HONESTLY doubt you're going to want 400HP. 300 @ the wheels would make that N/A car move ***. I can give you the contacts to a man who has a fresh no mileage 951 motor for $2500. After that, it's endless what you could do.
-Chip it ~$400?
-Stage I Turbo to put you ~300RWHP ~$1,000
-3" Exhaust FULL - ~$1350

That there on a 951 would be super cool, on a 944 it'd be dangerous LOL.

project356.com

I can give you the contacts to a man who has a fresh no mileage 951 motor for $2500. After that, it's endless what you could do.
-Chip it ~$400?
-Stage I Turbo to put you ~300RWHP ~$1,000
-3" Exhaust FULL - ~$1350


This is what i want. Email me offline please with his info, thanks

abduln

project356.com:

Putting a 928 engine in a 944 is doable. However, know that a stock 928 engine won't buy you much in terms of perfomance unless you use a 32v engine. While a 16v engine provides at least about 220 HP, the added weight of the engine will eat up some of the additional power.

Also know that there are a some issues and potential issues when dropping in the 928 engine, i.e.: the loss of the power brake booster, possible relocation of the brake master cylinders, potential exhaust clearance problems with the steering linkage. Additionally, as there is not kit, you will have to manage the clutch/bellhousing issue.

If you have a thorough understanding of your cars assemblies, and you can design and weld, then you can do it.

I am actually working on such a project, though I am dropping a 928 16v engine into a 924. I have the motor, the car, and the know how and I think it will be fun. However, know that in all practicality you would be far better off spending the dough on modding your 944 motor (a supercharger will do wonders).

Regards,
Abdul

Douglas G.

My 2 cents . . .

I have always wanted the 944 Chassis with 400 HP as well.

How much do you want to spend? Bring money . . lots and lots of money.

Start with a clean, strong 951 ~ $6K to $12K

Pour in $$$$ . . .275HP
continue pouring ~$$$~ . . .300HP
only 300HP??

Pour in a BUNCH more $$$$$$

How much does it take to get to 400HP using the original Porsche motor any way?

This is the route I took . .
91 944S2 with a broken motor. . .$2200
97 LT1 w/Aluminum heads from a 97 TA and 41,000 miles, 305 HP stock. . .$1200
Basic Renegade Kit . . .$2300
Lets say another $2500 for susp upgrades and such and to bump the motor up to the upper 300HP region.

At this point I will be at $8200, about what you would pay, on a really, really good day, for a good, clean, well maintained 951 to start building on.

In addition, parting out the broken 3.0 litre motor will return a portion of the funds expended on the project. Price a good used 3.0 litre head, crankshaft, or piston set lately? The head alone will pay for the LT1.

I struggled long and hard with this decision, and I have posted here about how tough it is to find a good, reliable, 3.0 litre replacement motor for my S2, then shell out mucho dinero for it. Having built hot rods and street machines in the past, the project is well within my abilities and no one can deny that the generation II LT1 is one of the great high performance production motors of all times; powerful, extremely reliable, and very easy to make big power out of it.

Yes I am a Porsche purist, but I am also a realist . . .In reality, I will have the best of both worlds, the worlds best motor in the worlds best chassis.

BTW I also own a bone stock 80 924 NA with the 924 turbo suspension and brake package option that I absolutely am in love with.

Regards

Doug Logan in CNY

mmmbeer

A turbo converted 968 engine should give you 500+ HP. Don't forget to do something about the rest of the car too. There is no need to put in a heavy V8 to screw up your weight balance, unless you want that V8 sound ofcourse.

Se my webpage for details: <a href="http://www.diateam.no/porsche" target="_blank">www.diateam.no/porsche</a>

Regards
Eirik Kvello-Aune

Bob S. 1984 Silver

The difference in weight betwen late model V8 (American) and the leadsled 2.5 is negligible. This debate has gone on here in this site many times. There are the "purists" and there are the "experimenters". Fact is, even if everyone who wanted to upgrade to a 951 had the wherewithall to do so, there are not enough 951 models around. Given this, there would have to be another way to satisfy the "need for speed". Putting in a 928 motor? The same reliability problems will exist as with the 944 due to the vast length of the timing belt, the expansion problems; look at posts on the 928 forum. Some of the problems look familiar? What other options are available? What other engine will fit in the hole? If it ain't a Porsche, is there an option that would satisfy the purists? Would a VW VR6 configuration be acceptable? Wouldn't be a Porsche now, would it? Fact of the matter is Porsche does not have another model from which an engine can be transplanted. So, again, what are the options? Is it important?

Frankly, the 944 and 951 models are nice looking cars, but they certainly will never be a treasured collectable. So, in a way, they are like the old Fords and Chevvies of the 50's were in the past: cheap enough for anyone to buy and disposable enough to experiment on. I think one of the rarest 944 models in the future will be one that has been left alone and is bone stock!!

So, three cheers for the experimenters. It is through them that we learn what is possible and what is not. Without them there would be no progress. (Mein Gott, Hans...Das ist nicht ein Porsche...der motor is in the wrong end!!..Ja, Adolph, und it uses vasser to cool!!!)

Remember; it was the result of Teutonic stubbornness that the 944 did not evolve further than it did. What it could have been we will never know. At the same time the 911 suicide machine was tweaked and tweaked until it wouldn't kill as many inexperienced drivers.

Cheers!!

Bob S.

project356.com

I like mmmbeer's ride, what a cool way to do it

I think that is the way I am going to go, where do I find a 968 motor?

you guys have been great on the responses, and I appreciate all the help. looks like I need to start a project 944 site too