Rice explained.
11-19-2002, 02:58 PM
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ohh yea i forgot about the wings...im still trying to figure out why and front wheel drive car would need so much rear downforce?????
11-19-2002, 03:01 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by sauerkraut:
<strong>ohh yea i forgot about the wings...im still trying to figure out why and front wheel drive car would need so much rear downforce?????</strong><hr></blockquote>
The only plausible explination I've ever gotta for this was not from a ricer, but a racer. The larger wing on the back could aid in stabilizing the car at higher speeds(around 120). Otherwise, it hurts that car as it takes traction off the front(drive) wheels.
<strong>ohh yea i forgot about the wings...im still trying to figure out why and front wheel drive car would need so much rear downforce?????</strong><hr></blockquote>
The only plausible explination I've ever gotta for this was not from a ricer, but a racer. The larger wing on the back could aid in stabilizing the car at higher speeds(around 120). Otherwise, it hurts that car as it takes traction off the front(drive) wheels.
11-19-2002, 03:06 PM
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Z-man - I have to disagree with one point.....
Most Ricers are not violent people....I would agree that the odd few perhaps in bigger cities may be involved in criminal activity/violence, but that is the case with any sub-culture. Rice doesn't equal violence. Even in The Fast and The Furious, there were no Ricers. In that movie there were true Import Tuners, and it may be that crowd you are thinking of - those are the crew with all the cash flowing left and right. Most Ricers are mid-income kids who live at home.
As for Ricing a car being an art form, well....no.
Creating a watch like a Rolex is an art form. Taking a watch that looks like a Rolex, putting Rolex stickers on it and making look more like a Rolex because you can't afford a Rolex is called stupid.
Either you have a sports car or you don't - there is no in-between.....well, actually there is - it's called "rice".
I have nothing against the Ricers. They are basically doing what we did as kids....like putting playing cards/hockey cards in the spokes of our "normal bikes" to make them sound like motor bikes. Nothing wrong with that, but when you take that normal bike and line it up next to a real motorbike and try and compare them or act like you ACTUALLY have a motorbike, there is someting wrong with that.
Also - there ARE two different types of Ricers. There are the slow-riding, image focussed, "coolio" type that couldn't care less if they race you. Then there are the "revvvv, revvv", my car has 300 Hp, "I'm the man", Import Tuner-wanna-be's. One puts stickers on cause it "looks cool" and the other puts stickers on cause they think people will actually believe thay have some super-car.
Either way - it's just annoying - and not cause we're "old". Times are changing. Music WAS better 10, 20, even 30 years ago. Why? Because it required the study of an instrument, music reading, lyric or at least something "music" related - now-a-days you can be a Rock Star by pleasing Simon Cowell or by having that much sought-after "bad-boy white rapper" thing going for you. Even Rappers from 10 years ago had some musical talent. Rappers today rely on computer-generated help and image way too much.
10 years ago, movies stayed in the theatre for weeks, months and sometimes even over a full year. Now, even the blockbusters last a maximum of 3 months - if they are lucky.
Society is different now - but not due to time change, like the difference between say 1950 and 1980. Society is now totally different than it has ever been and that drastic change brings about drastic outcomes.
...but I wouldn't put Ricers in that category, what they are doing has been done before and will be done again. Hate it while it is still around!
944S Boyeee
Most Ricers are not violent people....I would agree that the odd few perhaps in bigger cities may be involved in criminal activity/violence, but that is the case with any sub-culture. Rice doesn't equal violence. Even in The Fast and The Furious, there were no Ricers. In that movie there were true Import Tuners, and it may be that crowd you are thinking of - those are the crew with all the cash flowing left and right. Most Ricers are mid-income kids who live at home.
As for Ricing a car being an art form, well....no.
Creating a watch like a Rolex is an art form. Taking a watch that looks like a Rolex, putting Rolex stickers on it and making look more like a Rolex because you can't afford a Rolex is called stupid.
Either you have a sports car or you don't - there is no in-between.....well, actually there is - it's called "rice".
I have nothing against the Ricers. They are basically doing what we did as kids....like putting playing cards/hockey cards in the spokes of our "normal bikes" to make them sound like motor bikes. Nothing wrong with that, but when you take that normal bike and line it up next to a real motorbike and try and compare them or act like you ACTUALLY have a motorbike, there is someting wrong with that.
Also - there ARE two different types of Ricers. There are the slow-riding, image focussed, "coolio" type that couldn't care less if they race you. Then there are the "revvvv, revvv", my car has 300 Hp, "I'm the man", Import Tuner-wanna-be's. One puts stickers on cause it "looks cool" and the other puts stickers on cause they think people will actually believe thay have some super-car.
Either way - it's just annoying - and not cause we're "old". Times are changing. Music WAS better 10, 20, even 30 years ago. Why? Because it required the study of an instrument, music reading, lyric or at least something "music" related - now-a-days you can be a Rock Star by pleasing Simon Cowell or by having that much sought-after "bad-boy white rapper" thing going for you. Even Rappers from 10 years ago had some musical talent. Rappers today rely on computer-generated help and image way too much.
10 years ago, movies stayed in the theatre for weeks, months and sometimes even over a full year. Now, even the blockbusters last a maximum of 3 months - if they are lucky.
Society is different now - but not due to time change, like the difference between say 1950 and 1980. Society is now totally different than it has ever been and that drastic change brings about drastic outcomes.
...but I wouldn't put Ricers in that category, what they are doing has been done before and will be done again. Hate it while it is still around!
944S Boyeee
11-19-2002, 03:47 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by 944S Boyeee:
<strong>Z-man - I have to disagree with one point.....
Most Ricers are not violent people....<snip> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Street racing is reckless and is violent. Most ricers street race, even the ones without the performance mods.
That's some of the violence that is part of the Rice sub-culture. (Of course there are those <fewer> ricers who are violent in other ways: guns, crime, anarchy...etc)
Clear as mud?
-Z.
<strong>Z-man - I have to disagree with one point.....
Most Ricers are not violent people....<snip> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Street racing is reckless and is violent. Most ricers street race, even the ones without the performance mods.
That's some of the violence that is part of the Rice sub-culture. (Of course there are those <fewer> ricers who are violent in other ways: guns, crime, anarchy...etc)
Clear as mud?
-Z.
11-19-2002, 04:52 PM
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...some of the apparent "ricers" have all the stickers on their cars because they are sponsored by those companies. They are required to attend many events with their car appearing as a rolling billboard and R&D sample, and in return, they often get very good discounts on products that may be prohibitively expensive. It may not suit my tastes, but it makes good business sense for those that couldn't afford it otherwise.
And then what would pro racers think of those types who would modify production sports cars, what with our MacPherson struts and torsion bars, sheesh, isn't that the stuff of economy cars? We can't make it out to be so black and white so we can feel so good about ourselves 'cause that's being as immature as those of whom we make fun...
As for the actual ricers, just remember when we all were young and wanted attention -- eventually they'll grow out of it and may even get real cars, and then they'll be rolling their eyes at eyesores with an MJB out the back...
And then what would pro racers think of those types who would modify production sports cars, what with our MacPherson struts and torsion bars, sheesh, isn't that the stuff of economy cars? We can't make it out to be so black and white so we can feel so good about ourselves 'cause that's being as immature as those of whom we make fun...
As for the actual ricers, just remember when we all were young and wanted attention -- eventually they'll grow out of it and may even get real cars, and then they'll be rolling their eyes at eyesores with an MJB out the back...
11-19-2002, 05:17 PM
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I think Rice is a state of mind instead of a look or a feel.
I learned a long time ago that no matter what kind of car you have, whather its a chipped 951, a blown out Supra TT with 800bhp, a 911 GT-2, or a modified Acura Type-R, somebody somewhere has a car a hell of a lot faster than yours, a hell of a lot nicer than yours, and just when you think you are Mr Cool and are the King of the Street and the envy of the hot chicks standing on the corner with their finger in their hair, you get completely humbled by a guy in his late 30s with a great job, a great looking wife, a great suit, and a great car all without purposely flaunting any of it -- and realize you weren't quite as cool as you thought you were.
Thats my Anti Rice.
I learned a long time ago that no matter what kind of car you have, whather its a chipped 951, a blown out Supra TT with 800bhp, a 911 GT-2, or a modified Acura Type-R, somebody somewhere has a car a hell of a lot faster than yours, a hell of a lot nicer than yours, and just when you think you are Mr Cool and are the King of the Street and the envy of the hot chicks standing on the corner with their finger in their hair, you get completely humbled by a guy in his late 30s with a great job, a great looking wife, a great suit, and a great car all without purposely flaunting any of it -- and realize you weren't quite as cool as you thought you were.
Thats my Anti Rice.
11-19-2002, 05:53 PM
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Z-man, are you speaking out of experience or from what you've read/seen on the movie screen?
Yes, there is a lot of theft related to the "import" circles, but you seem to be stereotyping every person who owns a modified Japanese import as a violent character, or worse yet, as a downright criminal.
The theft can be attributed to the popularity of these type of cars and the market for parts, but this isn't anything new. The same was true with Chevy's before.
Many of my car friends own Japanese imports. They build them for mostly go, but yes for styling as well. Anyone here who claims "all go" better have a pure race car, or they are lying.
There cars include 12second SE-Rs that can beat up on many of our cars in ax and on the track, comparably quick Civic hatches, 240SX's. I've spent time hanging out in this subculture, and attending the shows. Yes, there is a testosterone-fueled, aggressive environment, but I would say it was much worse in the early 90's before the import craze when gansta rap was on the airwaves. I grew up in a fairly affluent neighborhood in Northern Virgnia and had 3 friends shot, 1 killed during highschool over wannabe "gangsta" bullcrap. Not once has anyone I've known in the import scene been involved in similar things. Hobbies are meant to divert time to something fulfilling, and non-violent and import tuning is no different than working on porsches or collecting baseball cards in this purpose.
I've been streetracing many times over the past few years. I don't anymore, but it's the same thing as the rest of the scene. Most of the young people are just there to have fun and be part of the "scene". Yes, there are the "one percenters" (borrowing a biker term) who do cause trouble, but this is NOT what the scene is. I also compete in local AX's and go to the track. Many of these so-called "ricers" are quick.
[quote]back then, it was switchblades and cigarettes; today, it's guns and crack.<hr></blockquote>
You've associated streetracers with crack? You are kidding, right?
Please don't sterotype without experience. It's no better than an import enthusiast calling us a bunch of country-club Chets who know nothing about our cars.
In any case, a "ricer" is typically used in the import world to mean someone who is either
a) ignorant AND unwilling to learn anything about their car
b) adding all sorts of decorations that don't do anything or hurt performance
Can't we all just get along?
Yes, there is a lot of theft related to the "import" circles, but you seem to be stereotyping every person who owns a modified Japanese import as a violent character, or worse yet, as a downright criminal.
The theft can be attributed to the popularity of these type of cars and the market for parts, but this isn't anything new. The same was true with Chevy's before.
Many of my car friends own Japanese imports. They build them for mostly go, but yes for styling as well. Anyone here who claims "all go" better have a pure race car, or they are lying.
There cars include 12second SE-Rs that can beat up on many of our cars in ax and on the track, comparably quick Civic hatches, 240SX's. I've spent time hanging out in this subculture, and attending the shows. Yes, there is a testosterone-fueled, aggressive environment, but I would say it was much worse in the early 90's before the import craze when gansta rap was on the airwaves. I grew up in a fairly affluent neighborhood in Northern Virgnia and had 3 friends shot, 1 killed during highschool over wannabe "gangsta" bullcrap. Not once has anyone I've known in the import scene been involved in similar things. Hobbies are meant to divert time to something fulfilling, and non-violent and import tuning is no different than working on porsches or collecting baseball cards in this purpose.
I've been streetracing many times over the past few years. I don't anymore, but it's the same thing as the rest of the scene. Most of the young people are just there to have fun and be part of the "scene". Yes, there are the "one percenters" (borrowing a biker term) who do cause trouble, but this is NOT what the scene is. I also compete in local AX's and go to the track. Many of these so-called "ricers" are quick.
[quote]back then, it was switchblades and cigarettes; today, it's guns and crack.<hr></blockquote>
You've associated streetracers with crack? You are kidding, right?
Please don't sterotype without experience. It's no better than an import enthusiast calling us a bunch of country-club Chets who know nothing about our cars.
In any case, a "ricer" is typically used in the import world to mean someone who is either
a) ignorant AND unwilling to learn anything about their car
b) adding all sorts of decorations that don't do anything or hurt performance
Can't we all just get along?
11-19-2002, 06:02 PM
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"Rice" merely reflect the current "zeitgeist". In this image oriented society, rice represents the seduction of the mainstream by the superficiality of everything. Look around its happening everywhere, all around us. In a world that lacks creativity, seduction is where media giants in cooperation with industry giant work to blind us to objects/ ideas of substance.
Therefore our discomfort with "rice" -mobiles reflect also displays our discomfort with societu as a whole. I cannot speak for everyone but I appreciate our cars because it was engineered for performance which is the classic appreciation for cars. Tho' I still like certain Japanese vehicles, many of them has grappled on to this idea of seduction. As evidenced, the Japanese produce and re-produce newer and newer products constantly in a effort to outdate slightly older versions of the new. Can you believe that there is a new accord and civic again, while it took how long for BMW, Daimlers, and Porsches to come out with a new model? This is precisely why rice originated with the Japanese, the ones who "mass produce seduction".
Ok,ok, totally OT but just to express my opinion of what is culturally separating us from the Ricers. Believe me, I have rice in me. not only am I asian but many people I know have very riced out cars- many of them are BMW's and VW. It is really just an attitude. While I struggle to find out why my PS still leaks, they pay for every modification to be installed by a mechanic including pedals, headlights and bulbs, not to mention the more complicated stuff. There is only a desire to look good and to have but never a desire to truly understand how it works or put together.
My 2 cents
Therefore our discomfort with "rice" -mobiles reflect also displays our discomfort with societu as a whole. I cannot speak for everyone but I appreciate our cars because it was engineered for performance which is the classic appreciation for cars. Tho' I still like certain Japanese vehicles, many of them has grappled on to this idea of seduction. As evidenced, the Japanese produce and re-produce newer and newer products constantly in a effort to outdate slightly older versions of the new. Can you believe that there is a new accord and civic again, while it took how long for BMW, Daimlers, and Porsches to come out with a new model? This is precisely why rice originated with the Japanese, the ones who "mass produce seduction".
Ok,ok, totally OT but just to express my opinion of what is culturally separating us from the Ricers. Believe me, I have rice in me. not only am I asian but many people I know have very riced out cars- many of them are BMW's and VW. It is really just an attitude. While I struggle to find out why my PS still leaks, they pay for every modification to be installed by a mechanic including pedals, headlights and bulbs, not to mention the more complicated stuff. There is only a desire to look good and to have but never a desire to truly understand how it works or put together.
My 2 cents
11-19-2002, 06:50 PM
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megatron:
While I have not seen first hand what goes on within the rice crowd (since I don't attend any of their get-togethers), I have heard of first hand accounts of happenings. (Like the guy I know who's sister's Acura Integra was broken into so someone with a Civic could have the Teggy head!) A friend of mine used to be into the whole street racing scene and has told me of some interesting not-so-legal activities that occur.
And there's a Civic hatchback that runs autox with my local Porsche club: he's got a turbo, the Z3 gills, and it's mildly 'riced out' but he drives it well: posts better times than I do. So, I do know that not all people into the "rice" thing are evil.
I just wish they would stop bothering me on my ride home: no: I don't want to race, I just want to get home for dinner!
-Z.
While I have not seen first hand what goes on within the rice crowd (since I don't attend any of their get-togethers), I have heard of first hand accounts of happenings. (Like the guy I know who's sister's Acura Integra was broken into so someone with a Civic could have the Teggy head!) A friend of mine used to be into the whole street racing scene and has told me of some interesting not-so-legal activities that occur.
And there's a Civic hatchback that runs autox with my local Porsche club: he's got a turbo, the Z3 gills, and it's mildly 'riced out' but he drives it well: posts better times than I do. So, I do know that not all people into the "rice" thing are evil.
I just wish they would stop bothering me on my ride home: no: I don't want to race, I just want to get home for dinner!
-Z.
11-19-2002, 07:53 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Z-man:
<strong>megatron:
(Like the guy I know who's sister's Acura Integra was broken into so someone with a Civic could have the Teggy head!)
A friend of mine used to be into the whole street racing scene and has told me of some interesting not-so-legal activities that occur.
-Z.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Your friend's GS-R's being targeted for its drivetrain is not surprising. Happens all the time. My housemate's GS-R has been the victim of theft-attempts no fewer than 3 times. The Integra is still the most stolen car in the US, IIRC. However, I don't think this ia anything new. In the old muscle car era, this was probably as common (steal a better-engined, same platform car), given the more primitive theft deterrents of the time.
As for not-so-legal activities that occur in streetdrag circles, the same happens in any highschool, college, nightclub, sports game, house party, etc. where there is a concentration of young people with money. There's nothing particularly different about streetdrags that make it any different. It's just another form of recreation that young people do.
As for your encounters with "ricers" on the streets, yes it's annoying, but no more so, than say, being surrounded by SUV's.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I just really dislike when people assume that everyone in the import crowd (which is the THE most popular "genre" for young car enthusiasts) is a hooligan of some type. The last two times I was pulled over (once was just expired tab) the police officer looked at me, and asked me repeatedly if the 91' S2 or 93' 968 I was in was my car. I found this very offensive, but cooperated. Porsche owners stereotyping and insulting an entire generation of car enthusiasts doesn't do much but give the Porsche badge a bad name.
<strong>megatron:
(Like the guy I know who's sister's Acura Integra was broken into so someone with a Civic could have the Teggy head!)
A friend of mine used to be into the whole street racing scene and has told me of some interesting not-so-legal activities that occur.
-Z.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Your friend's GS-R's being targeted for its drivetrain is not surprising. Happens all the time. My housemate's GS-R has been the victim of theft-attempts no fewer than 3 times. The Integra is still the most stolen car in the US, IIRC. However, I don't think this ia anything new. In the old muscle car era, this was probably as common (steal a better-engined, same platform car), given the more primitive theft deterrents of the time.
As for not-so-legal activities that occur in streetdrag circles, the same happens in any highschool, college, nightclub, sports game, house party, etc. where there is a concentration of young people with money. There's nothing particularly different about streetdrags that make it any different. It's just another form of recreation that young people do.
As for your encounters with "ricers" on the streets, yes it's annoying, but no more so, than say, being surrounded by SUV's.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I just really dislike when people assume that everyone in the import crowd (which is the THE most popular "genre" for young car enthusiasts) is a hooligan of some type. The last two times I was pulled over (once was just expired tab) the police officer looked at me, and asked me repeatedly if the 91' S2 or 93' 968 I was in was my car. I found this very offensive, but cooperated. Porsche owners stereotyping and insulting an entire generation of car enthusiasts doesn't do much but give the Porsche badge a bad name.
11-19-2002, 10:16 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Jon Bruner:
<strong>It might be a bit OT but, is it me or do a great deal of ricer boys look like Eminem?</strong><hr></blockquote>
And about 5 feet tall? (Or at least, they look that way while driving...all you see is a head and a single arm at the 12 o'clock position, Detroit-lean style.)
<strong>It might be a bit OT but, is it me or do a great deal of ricer boys look like Eminem?</strong><hr></blockquote>
And about 5 feet tall? (Or at least, they look that way while driving...all you see is a head and a single arm at the 12 o'clock position, Detroit-lean style.)
11-19-2002, 11:31 PM
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Hmm... couple things Id like to add to this post before I go down to the rice forums and ask once and for all WTF they are all about.
Being a baby compared to most of you (23 years old - yes I barely have pubic hair)
I can perhaps give a different perspective:
I see alot of confusion about what the aim of the ricer is. Is it to A. Look good? B. Look fast? C. Go fast? There is a segment of the ricer population (about 1%) that creates show cars. Some are fast, but they are barely driven, some are slow, but they're always parked at a show anyway, so it doesnt matter.
The rest of the ricer population does the whole teenage "I hate my father" thing with cars. In their mind, they must have the loudest, most obnoxious, fastest car out there. They go and race other cars to prove their manhood or some such bull****. (read: insecure about ***** size)
The comment about the young kids thinking they are the top dog on the block only to be outdone by an older guy with money, a suit, and a nice car without stickers happens to most of these kids sooner or later - and its also what changes them. Eventually this fad will phase out and "subtle" will be the "in" thing.
I personally dislike ricers - strongly. Its not the cars necessarily, its the attitude. When Im out in the 951 - going to catch a movie or off to meet a few friends somewhere I dont appreciate every ****ing Civic with a wing on doing the "pissed off bumblebee" routine (read: revving 1.6L of fart can enhansed displacement) when they are next to me at a light. I dont need some 17 year old "I can kick your ***" pimple covered face kid staring at me like hes trying out for Vin Diesal's (sp?) part in Fast and the Furious II. You wouldnt believe some of the crap that comes out of their mouths... their parents should have beat the **** out of them when they were younger. "POOORSHES are ****, I kill them all the time!" Who are these people that run around insulting others on the road?
Ive tried ignoring them, it doesnt work - they only get worse. You see - being 23 - I dont have that "hes an older guy, leave him alone" thing going on, and you wouldnt BELIEVE the amount of **** I catch on a daily basis. Actually racing them does no good - you only get a finger and a "rice boy" blow by after you embarress them. Argh... getting frustrated now...
Just the other day I went through a Burger King drive through.. two cars in front was a beat up old Supra with TWO fart cans... he looked in his rearview mirror and ACTUALLY REVED AT ME REPEATEDLY!!! WTF? What kind of a MORON do you HAVE to be to rev your engine in a BK DRIVE THROUGH!?!?!?! I put my window down and gave him the old parental
<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> but that only keep them going... I give up.
Rant mode off... foaming at the mouth - sorry but needed to vent a tad... there are alot more things I would like to say but Ill only come off as obtuse, so Ill just end here. Hope the above makes sense. Happy posting!
Being a baby compared to most of you (23 years old - yes I barely have pubic hair)
I can perhaps give a different perspective:I see alot of confusion about what the aim of the ricer is. Is it to A. Look good? B. Look fast? C. Go fast? There is a segment of the ricer population (about 1%) that creates show cars. Some are fast, but they are barely driven, some are slow, but they're always parked at a show anyway, so it doesnt matter.
The rest of the ricer population does the whole teenage "I hate my father" thing with cars. In their mind, they must have the loudest, most obnoxious, fastest car out there. They go and race other cars to prove their manhood or some such bull****. (read: insecure about ***** size)
The comment about the young kids thinking they are the top dog on the block only to be outdone by an older guy with money, a suit, and a nice car without stickers happens to most of these kids sooner or later - and its also what changes them. Eventually this fad will phase out and "subtle" will be the "in" thing.
I personally dislike ricers - strongly. Its not the cars necessarily, its the attitude. When Im out in the 951 - going to catch a movie or off to meet a few friends somewhere I dont appreciate every ****ing Civic with a wing on doing the "pissed off bumblebee" routine (read: revving 1.6L of fart can enhansed displacement) when they are next to me at a light. I dont need some 17 year old "I can kick your ***" pimple covered face kid staring at me like hes trying out for Vin Diesal's (sp?) part in Fast and the Furious II. You wouldnt believe some of the crap that comes out of their mouths... their parents should have beat the **** out of them when they were younger. "POOORSHES are ****, I kill them all the time!" Who are these people that run around insulting others on the road?
Ive tried ignoring them, it doesnt work - they only get worse. You see - being 23 - I dont have that "hes an older guy, leave him alone" thing going on, and you wouldnt BELIEVE the amount of **** I catch on a daily basis. Actually racing them does no good - you only get a finger and a "rice boy" blow by after you embarress them. Argh... getting frustrated now...
Just the other day I went through a Burger King drive through.. two cars in front was a beat up old Supra with TWO fart cans... he looked in his rearview mirror and ACTUALLY REVED AT ME REPEATEDLY!!! WTF? What kind of a MORON do you HAVE to be to rev your engine in a BK DRIVE THROUGH!?!?!?! I put my window down and gave him the old parental
<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> but that only keep them going... I give up.
Rant mode off... foaming at the mouth - sorry but needed to vent a tad... there are alot more things I would like to say but Ill only come off as obtuse, so Ill just end here. Hope the above makes sense. Happy posting!