Poll: Decide what I should do.
03-29-2002, 05:58 PM
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I have two sets of the same size you mentioned, both RE-730's and although I haven't tried the others I'm satisfied with the Bridgestones and I don't notice any harsh ride or noise. Luck Jim H
03-29-2002, 06:06 PM
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Trev,
You know Im down for the RE-730's since I roll with them. Great tyre, good wear time, little roll. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
You know Im down for the RE-730's since I roll with them. Great tyre, good wear time, little roll. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
03-29-2002, 06:26 PM
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Well Keith you could always open your own 944 garage. Now that you are back when is going to be the next charlotte beer night.
BTW if you open a garage I have a timing belt that needs tightening.
BTW if you open a garage I have a timing belt that needs tightening.
03-29-2002, 09:36 PM
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Get the Kumhos! Laugh all the way to the bank at the ridiculous amount of money you've saved. I love the Kumhos on my 944 (205/55-15) instead of 215/60-15 because they're about 98% of the size of the spec tire, they're still V rated, and they wear like iron even when pushed to limits. Nice running little tires... I would prefer something grippier for auto-x work, but I'll get someone else's used stickies for my cookie-cutters, and run my Kumhos on my polished phone dials on the
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03-29-2002, 09:58 PM
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government smarts huh? <a href="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/general/utqg.htm" target="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/general/utqg.htm</a>
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The Department of Transportation requires each manufacturer to grade its tires under the Uniform Tire Quality Grade (UTQG) labeling system and establish ratings for treadwear, traction, and temperature resistance. These tests are conducted independently by each manufacturer following government guidelines to assign values that represent a comparison between the tested tire and a control tire. While traction and temperature resistance ratings are specific performance levels, the treadwear ratings are assigned by the manufacturers following field testing and are most accurate when comparing tires of the same brand.
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[quote] there is no reliable way to assign miles of wear to treadwear grade points. <hr></blockquote>
Still gonna put a lot of weight on those numbers? <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
[quote]
The Department of Transportation requires each manufacturer to grade its tires under the Uniform Tire Quality Grade (UTQG) labeling system and establish ratings for treadwear, traction, and temperature resistance. These tests are conducted independently by each manufacturer following government guidelines to assign values that represent a comparison between the tested tire and a control tire. While traction and temperature resistance ratings are specific performance levels, the treadwear ratings are assigned by the manufacturers following field testing and are most accurate when comparing tires of the same brand.
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[quote] there is no reliable way to assign miles of wear to treadwear grade points. <hr></blockquote>
Still gonna put a lot of weight on those numbers? <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" /> <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
03-29-2002, 10:51 PM
#22
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Well, each tire manufacturer tests their tires a little differently to arrive at that magical number. Comparing two 200-treadwear ratings from different manufacturers would probably give different mileage. Also the UTQG is a wear rate, not total mileage. If you have two tires with treadwear of 60, the one with the 10/32" tread depth will last longer than the 6/32" one. Also as a comparison, the Yoke A032Rs (treadwear 60) last about TWICE as long as Kumho Victoracers with treadwear 50.
03-29-2002, 11:24 PM
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[quote]Quoted from Tirerack:
...the treadwear ratings are assigned by the manufacturers following field testing and are most accurate when comparing tires of the same brand.<hr></blockquote>
Still sounds legitimate to me...the treadwear ratings certainly aren't worthless. The fact that they're most accurate when comparing tires from the same manufacturer should be common sense and shouldn't render the ratings useless. Yes I'll still think of them the same way and consider higher values in my current buying decision.
...the treadwear ratings are assigned by the manufacturers following field testing and are most accurate when comparing tires of the same brand.<hr></blockquote>
Still sounds legitimate to me...the treadwear ratings certainly aren't worthless. The fact that they're most accurate when comparing tires from the same manufacturer should be common sense and shouldn't render the ratings useless. Yes I'll still think of them the same way and consider higher values in my current buying decision.
03-29-2002, 11:56 PM
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I'm just saying I want a higher treadwear rating in general, not the common 140, 200, or 220. The RE-730's have a 300 and the 712's have a 280. The BFG's have 400 and that's what I'd like to have...Michelin's Pilot Sport All Seasons have the same 400 rating but they're WAY too pricey. I'm almost certain I'll be getting some Bridgestones.